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materialguy
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Joined: Jul 12, 2004
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:29 am |
 
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Careful study doesn't support the popular presumption that Mexican immigration into the U.S. increases crime. (Of course, this doesn't refer to the "crime" of illegally immigrating -- a bit of circularity of justification no-one should indulge).
Social Problems abstract
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Our sociological knowledge of crime is fragmented and ineffective in challenging and correcting mistaken public perceptions, for example, linking immigration and crime. These misperceptions are perpetuated by government reports of growing numbers of Hispanic immigrants in U.S. prisons. However, Hispanic immigrants are disproportionately young males who regardless of citizenship are at greater risk of criminal involvement. They are also more vulnerable to restrictive treatment in the criminal justice system, especially at the pre-trial stage. When these differences are integrated into calculations using equations that begin with observed numbers of immigrants and citizens in state prisons, it is estimated that the involvement of Hispanic immigrants in crime is less than that of citizens. These results cast doubt on the hypothesis that immigration causes crime and make more transparent the immigration and criminal justice policies that inflate the rate of Hispanic incarceration. This transparency helps to resolve a paradox in the picture of Mexican immigration to the United States, since by most measures of well-being, Mexican immigrants are found to do as well and sometimes better than citizens. |
An article will appear in the upcoming NYT magazine. As the myth of immigrant criminality works as part of one of the most potent political motivators among a segment of the US population, people have already strongly denied such findings.
See also this 40 page survey article
On Immigration and Crime
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CET
Master of Logic
Joined: Apr 03, 2003
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Location: SoCal, USA
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:10 pm |
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Personally, I have no use for borders. |
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andrewgreve
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:55 am |
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| Personally, I have no use for borders. |
You beat me to it! |
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sjc
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Joined: Nov 12, 2006
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:55 am |
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| CET wrote: |
| Personally, I have no use for borders. |
How about private property (land), Comrade?  |
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andrewgreve
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:46 am |
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| CET wrote: |
| Personally, I have no use for borders. |
How about private property (land), Comrade? |
I believe he meant borders in the statist sense. There is no such thing as "America" or "Mexico" or a "border" between them. Once you start speaking of such things, you have entered into fantasy land. |
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sjc
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:42 am |
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| I believe he meant borders in the statist sense. There is no such thing as "America" or "Mexico" or a "border" between them. Once you start speaking of such things, you have entered into fantasy land. |
So is the ownership of any land. Like beer, you only rent it. |
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andrewgreve
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:27 am |
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No, property rights exist. In fact, they are essential for the existence of society. People do NOT bear a responsibility for the well-being of others. This is the basis of society: no unchosen obligations to other people. An unchosen obligation is the definition of slavery. |
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