That's one of the many websites that does two annoying things that drive me frippin' CRAZY:
1. Beg the question by using the bible to prove the bible's validity, all the while using completely LAME quotes that have no relevance to the topic at hand
2. Use what I call the argument from "MATH AND SCIENCE EXIST!!!" Basically, what this means is that it provides you with an equation, a scientific fact, therefore God exists. It's like trying to prove that the letter schnoogledorf exists by proving that A and B exist. For instance, in the theory of relativity proves god exists page, they state only that Einstein's theory was correct - does anyone see proof of god there?
Anyway, just wanted to point this out.
Edit: I find it funny how liberally the author uses the word "upload" in order to sound technical. He also combines that with liberal use of EXTREMELY look-at-me-I'm-philosophical attempts:
"Due to science we go around curved space/time and
upload everybody's organically produced operating system/soul including the Galilee Carpenter's and give Him His kingdom
.
Because we want to. Because we can
."
He also makes an attempt to say that since Buddha is OBVIOUSLY the only REAL other candidate for being the true God (for reasons completely unbeknownst to me since he ISN'T a God and as to my knowledge Buddhists don't even worship a God per se, but strive for a state of ultimate peace. He furthers this claim to an even worse state by saying that since buddha just said he was ENLIGHTENED, and Jesus said he was the only way into Heaven, jesus was right (I guess I'm supposed to arrogantly disregard the obscurity of the bible ha).
MY FAVORITE QUOTE: "
You must have a personal relationship with Christ
in order to be uploaded into Heaven!"
...On God's eternal and infinite-capacity flashdrive over to his pentium infinity MacBook...
His questions with my answers:
Why would a kind God build Hell?
**He wouldn't. Therefore his character as a kind, ever benevolent being is either mistaken or he does not exist.
What is He to do?
**Absolutely nothing. He should accept all regardless of his coercion.
Death penalty for mere stubbornness?
**Yeah, that's pretty much what he does anyway...
Primitive tribes including the ancient Hebrews have to have the death penalty for almost every infraction.
**As do you, my friend, according to the laws prescribed in the holy book with which you quote left and right regardless of the location.
But modern society and the Kingdom of Heaven have more resources.
**By "resources" I'm guessing you mean more death penalty by theistic vigilantes on people such as my hero, Matthew Shepard, in the name of God? Did god not command the Israelites to stone unruly teenagers? If God was different then than he is now, then that means he was not optimally perfect at the time of commanding, and therefore is not perfect now. If he was perfect then his law requires brutal acts on children. If Heaven has more "resources" (What are we talking? PvP zones? Peer mediation? AA meetings?), then God did not intervene enough on Earth to provide these life-saving services to the Israelites and therefore is insufficiently involved to be considered obvious.
Everybody gets an afterlife.
**How do you know for sure? Have you met many people who've been there?
That's the only fair way.
**Um, I thought god was the only completely moral being in the universe. How do you know what is and isn't fair? That's purely subjective.
But what kind each person gets that is each person's OWN CHOICE
**OK so I want lots of hot women in heaven, an xbox 360 I can operate with my mind and an unlimited supply of stuffed crust pizza with cheezy bread. Oh, and I want to go there after a well-lived life of sodomy, fornication, greed, hate, and evil (I plan to destroy the entire tri-state area with my destroyer-inator ). So, there is my choice. If you tell me that this choice is incorrect then you are wrong, because you just said it was MY CHOICE.
Theist: What's your favorite color? Answer and I'll give you a dollar amount of your choice.
Atheist: Red. Give me $300 bucks.
Theist: WRONG!!! I WILL MURDER YOU FOR YOUR UNCHRISTLIKE WAYS!!!!!
...
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Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:05 am
Apparently God couldn't give them a more professional web page title: "Page 1", that's only one step up from "Untitled Page"
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DigitalAtheist Graduate Thinker
Joined: Apr 13, 2009
Posts: 659
Location: Canada
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Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:52 pm
I'm not sure, BAA, but I think that we may have convinced Troy to go back on his meds. We might not see updates to bibleloco for awhile. Let's hope, for Troy's sake. Let's also hope the "proofgodexists" people also get the help they need.
Welcome, Jeremy. I'm looking forward to corrupting your young mind! (Il n'existe jamais « un jugement tranquille! »)
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Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:37 am
No, I hope these sites stay around. They're fun to joke about
By the way, D.A. my translation is "It never exists - a peaceful judgement!" LOL. I'm still learning french, I'm what you'd call un eleve dans un ecole americain (without accent marks because my keyboard doesn't support them). I don't get to talk much in french, but I want to study abroad and maybe move there at one point, so I'm trying to use it wherever I can.
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DigitalAtheist Graduate Thinker
Joined: Apr 13, 2009
Posts: 659
Location: Canada
Posted:
Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:07 pm
Yes, I have the French of an Anglo-Canadian, so I remain un élève aussi. Of course, so are many Francophones, so not to worry too much. Keep it up – second languages are (among) the best flexing your mind can do. And opening a door into Europe isn't a bad thing at all.
Bonne chance!
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HighPriestessLois Newbie First Class
Joined: Feb 27, 2010
Posts: 45
Location: Arizona USA
Posted:
Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:28 pm
That "Proof God exists" site is really whacked out! Just for the lulz, I sent him this letter:
Somebody linked to your website, and just because I needed some amusement, I perused it a bit. On one page, I found this:
“Thank you for taking responsibility for my faults yourself by dying on the cross for me…”
You seem to be teaching people that they don’t have to be responsible for their own faults, but can shift the blame to someone else so that they never have to deal with it. I do not agree with this line of thinking. I believe that, if you have a fault, you should work to overcome it yourself. If you commit a crime, YOU are the one who must be punished. If you hurt someone, YOU are the one who must apologize and make amends. If you break the window, it comes out of YOUR allowance. I can understand why a lot of people don’t like these ideas. After all, it is much easier to claim that someone else is taking the blame for you so that you can go on your merry way and forget about the hurt you caused, but that is not how real life works.
Imagine someone committing a murder and being sentenced to 50 years in prison. Then some guy walks into the courtroom and says that HE will be happy to serve this guy’s sentence for him, while the murderer goes free. No judge anywhere would agree to such an arrangement, and with good reason: it means that an innocent man would be punished while the guilty man is free to do as he pleases. I’m sure the guilty man would be very happy, but it would accomplish nothing and would be unfair, unjust, and wrong. Even a child could figure this out. But that is what Christians propose with their “Jesus died for my sins” scenario.
Not surprisingly, they completely ignore what the Bible, itself, says on the subject. You know, the whole bit about children not being punished for the sins of their fathers, and each man bearing the punishment for his own sin? Yeah, that’s about taking responsibility. It’s about not blaming other people for something that you did. Of course, there are plenty of examples in the Bible of people breaking this simple command—even God does it—but that doesn’t make it any less applicable. If Jesus died so that you can blame him for your problems, faults, and crimes against your neighbors, then he sinned as much as you are.
So, all in all, I think I’ll skip your little prayer. It does not make any sense to me. In fact, it seems detrimental to my overall development as a human being who must interact sensibly and considerately with other human beings. If God finds that offensive, then he has greater faults than I do, and is not worthy of my attention.
Thanks for your time,
Lois
Will let everyone know if he writes back.
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). So, there is my choice. If you tell me that this choice is incorrect then you are wrong, because you just said it was MY CHOICE.
