dick masterson is The Last Straw!

The Learned Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 122

I noticed in school that girls did indeed get better grades than boys do. BUT grades don't mean you actually know the subject. All a grade does is prove that you can memorize the subject long enough to regurgitate onto a test. Time after time I found fellow students had forgotten large amounts of the material or had no real world knowledge of how to apply it within 30 minutes of taking said test or turning in the paper.

Also, I have found that this tendency for girls to get higher grades than boys dramatically flips in college. I suspect it has nothing whatsoever to do wtih intillect though but rather social issues dateing, and the natural ticking clock for baby come to mind. Woman also have a tendency to date older men (especially in college), the problem with doing that is that the guy is going to graduate first and it puts natural pressure on the woman to abstain from her studies or quit altogether.

In short, woman do indeed have an up-hill battle IF and WHEN they choose to go against the natural order of things. Keep in mind that we are still less than 100 years removed from woman's place being in the home, not in the workforce or career -- and that wasn't looked down upon at all because that was where they were needed for their family and themselves to be. It is modern society that has chosen to put the job of "homemaker" in the classifcation of slave labor or ditch digger - just ask any father that does a role reversal for proof of that.

My grandmother who gladly was a homemaker all her life could kick any "modern grandmother's" ass any day of the week.

I've also known woman who gave up the feminist movement and went back to "classical" roles and guess what happend? - Their marriage improved, especially the sex life, their kids were clothed and fed properly, and their budgets even got better balanced due to the savings her home-work produced.

So my point is, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just like our kids (and especially industry right now) suffer from the school systems tossing out auto, wood, and industrial arts classes they also suffer when so called "traditional woman's work"/homemaking is belittled and ignored - in fact some contend it's the reason for the high divorce rate and they just may have a point.

Rob

slicea1a wrote:

my two cents

Years ago as a student teacher I enjoyed several of the mundane tasks of running a classroom: I graded tests and quizzes.

The girls in the class got better grades (by far).

As a restaurant manager I had similar experiences with my employees. I gave both men and women a group of tasks they had to complete (done verbally)

The women got their tasks done in order. The men had to be reminded what task number two was.

These are just two (unscientific) examples that conflict with his outlook on women. Before any of you ask, I am a man (a pathetic excuse of one if you ask my mother).

As for the attack on Reggie, I can only say that IG was being perfectly cool with this guest, allowing him to speak his mind and try to prove his points. IG did say that he agreed with some of his points and disagreed with others. That's a respectable host. Disagree with Todd Friel on his show and you don't get respect from him.

If Reggie interviews a woman in the future with the exact opposite point of view of Dick's, I'm sure IG would agree and disagree with the comments she would be making. At least Reggie allows his guests to speak; it earns him my respect.

Quotable quote on this subject:

Man has a brain and a penis but only enough blood to use one at a time

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:26 pm

Robocoastie wrote:

I noticed in school that girls did indeed get better grades than boys do. BUT grades don't mean you actually know the subject. All a grade does is prove that you can memorize the subject long enough to regurgitate onto a test. Time after time I found fellow students had forgotten large amounts of the material or had no real world knowledge of how to apply it within 30 minutes of taking said test or turning in the paper.

Actually, getting a good grade on a test is a good indicator that you know the subject Smile

You are correct about students forgetting the subject matter, students can not recall 75% to 85% of their college material after graduation.

Robocoastie wrote:

Also, I have found that this tendency for girls to get higher grades than boys dramatically flips in college. I suspect it has nothing whatsoever to do wtih intillect though but rather social issues dateing, and the natural ticking clock for baby come to mind. Woman also have a tendency to date older men (especially in college), the problem with doing that is that the guy is going to graduate first and it puts natural pressure on the woman to abstain from her studies or quit altogether.

I'm attending classes now and I don't see women falling behind men in my classes. My school concentrates on research and presentations, and the women in my classes are more articulate and detail driven. Many of these women are older than high school grads so that might be a factor.

Robocoastie wrote:

In short, woman do indeed have an up-hill battle IF and WHEN they choose to go against the natural order of things. Keep in mind that we are still less than 100 years removed from woman's place being in the home, not in the workforce or career -- and that wasn't looked down upon at all because that was where they were needed for their family and themselves to be. It is modern society that has chosen to put the job of "homemaker" in the classifcation of slave labor or ditch digger - just ask any father that does a role reversal for proof of that.

It all depends on what you call the "Natural Order". If we followed the natural order, men would not consider monogomy and kill other men that challenge his territory. Going against society norms isn't breaking the Natural Order. It's breaking a social stereotype.

Men who take the job of homemaker do have a harder time of it. We (men) can't multi task very well.

Robocoastie wrote:

My grandmother who gladly was a homemaker all her life could kick any "modern grandmother's" ass any day of the week.

My grandmother was a Depression Era teenager, had five children, did farmwork, taught grade school in a single room prairie school house, full time homemaker, and spoiled me rotten. When her kids were grown she went back to school and got her Master's Degree in her 50's. She kicked ass too.

Robocoastie wrote:

I've also known woman who gave up the feminist movement and went back to "classical" roles and guess what happend? - Their marriage improved, especially the sex life, their kids were clothed and fed properly, and their budgets even got better balanced due to the savings her home-work produced.

Women who have careers aren't necessarily feminists. I agree that the best environment for children is the old fashioned nuclear family.

Robocoastie wrote:

So my point is, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just like our kids (and especially industry right now) suffer from the school systems tossing out auto, wood, and industrial arts classes they also suffer when so called "traditional woman's work"/homemaking is belittled and ignored - in fact some contend it's the reason for the high divorce rate and they just may have a point.

They're removing IIA? I got an A in that class Sad

Non-traditional lifestyles might contribute to the divorce rate but it's not the 'reason'. In today's society we don't make decisions based on Right and Wrong. We base decisions on what is socially acceptable. Since divorce is no longer taboo, more people are taking that option.

Robocoastie wrote:

Rob

Slice

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 513

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Actually, getting a good grade on a test is a good indicator that you know the subject You are correct about students forgetting the subject matter, students can not recall 75% to 85% of their college material after graduation.

You should see what kind of tests they have us taking now. Hell, I've already forgotten chemistry, calculus, algebra, and some of my history.

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Men who take the job of homemaker do have a harder time of it. We (men) can't multi task very well.

I am not too good at housework myself. After 5 minutes, I would go 'ok, f*** this'. I don't think it has to do with multitasking, it's just that men don't like doing it. It's pointless. The only part of the house that this doesn't apply to is the kitchen, of course.

Just Arrived Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 8

Forum activity has increased, yes. And can't help but note at utube many posters are attaching the name infidelguy to their video posts.

So when you look up infidelguy you run into the copycats.

The infidelguy has become so popular he has many immitators. Guess it's the price of success.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:54 pm

Cygnus wrote:

Quote:

Actually, getting a good grade on a test is a good indicator that you know the subject You are correct about students forgetting the subject matter, students can not recall 75% to 85% of their college material after graduation.

You should see what kind of tests they have us taking now. Hell, I've already forgotten chemistry, calculus, algebra, and some of my history.

You must learn to love the subjects you study to remember them. That's why I can only remember history.

Cygnus wrote:

Quote:

Men who take the job of homemaker do have a harder time of it. We (men) can't multi task very well.

I am not too good at housework myself. After 5 minutes, I would go 'ok, f*** this'. I don't think it has to do with multitasking, it's just that men don't like doing it. It's pointless. The only part of the house that this doesn't apply to is the kitchen, of course.

My motto: "It doesn't have to be clean, it just has to work." That's why my PC, stereo, and TV are covered in dust.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:26 am

slicea1a wrote:

In today's society we don't make decisions based on Right and Wrong. We base decisions on what is socially acceptable.

There's a strong argument to be made that was is right and wrong is the same as what is socially acceptable. I certainly don’t see the two as mutually exclusive, it fact, I’d say we develop our moral ideas based mostly upon our social circumstances.

Quote:

My motto: "It doesn't have to be clean, it just has to work." That's why my PC, stereo, and TV are covered in dust.

If you let to much dust build up inside your computer it won't work for very long Wink

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:36 pm

MockingGods wrote:

If you let to much dust build up inside your computer it won't work for very long Wink

Dust can get in there???? Shocked

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 513

Quote:

If you let to much dust build up inside your computer it won't work for very long

That's why my computer is a laptop.

The Learned Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 122

infidelguy wrote:

I truly think that Dick is just another Pastor Harry Hardwick. He even admitted that he's just "trying to get men to laugh". Kinda tells the tale.

Oh his interview had sarcasm, tongue in cheek all over it. We just live in a world of sound bites and literalness now that just like christians don't recognize mythmaking and poetry in their bible, others have lost or never knew the ear for sarcasm.

The Learned Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 122

slicea1a wrote:

Robocoastie wrote:

I noticed in school that girls did indeed get better grades than boys do. BUT grades don't mean you actually know the subject. All a grade does is prove that you can memorize the subject long enough to regurgitate onto a test. Time after time I found fellow students had forgotten large amounts of the material or had no real world knowledge of how to apply it within 30 minutes of taking said test or turning in the paper.

Actually, getting a good grade on a test is a good indicator that you know the subject Smile

You are correct about students forgetting the subject matter, students can not recall 75% to 85% of their college material after graduation.

Robocoastie wrote:

Also, I have found that this tendency for girls to get higher grades than boys dramatically flips in college. I suspect it has nothing whatsoever to do wtih intillect though but rather social issues dateing, and the natural ticking clock for baby come to mind. Woman also have a tendency to date older men (especially in college), the problem with doing that is that the guy is going to graduate first and it puts natural pressure on the woman to abstain from her studies or quit altogether.

I'm attending classes now and I don't see women falling behind men in my classes. My school concentrates on research and presentations, and the women in my classes are more articulate and detail driven. Many of these women are older than high school grads so that might be a factor.

Robocoastie wrote:

In short, woman do indeed have an up-hill battle IF and WHEN they choose to go against the natural order of things. Keep in mind that we are still less than 100 years removed from woman's place being in the home, not in the workforce or career -- and that wasn't looked down upon at all because that was where they were needed for their family and themselves to be. It is modern society that has chosen to put the job of "homemaker" in the classifcation of slave labor or ditch digger - just ask any father that does a role reversal for proof of that.

It all depends on what you call the "Natural Order". If we followed the natural order, men would not consider monogomy and kill other men that challenge his territory. Going against society norms isn't breaking the Natural Order. It's breaking a social stereotype.

Men who take the job of homemaker do have a harder time of it. We (men) can't multi task very well.

Robocoastie wrote:

My grandmother who gladly was a homemaker all her life could kick any "modern grandmother's" ass any day of the week.

My grandmother was a Depression Era teenager, had five children, did farmwork, taught grade school in a single room prairie school house, full time homemaker, and spoiled me rotten. When her kids were grown she went back to school and got her Master's Degree in her 50's. She kicked ass too.

Robocoastie wrote:

I've also known woman who gave up the feminist movement and went back to "classical" roles and guess what happend? - Their marriage improved, especially the sex life, their kids were clothed and fed properly, and their budgets even got better balanced due to the savings her home-work produced.

Women who have careers aren't necessarily feminists. I agree that the best environment for children is the old fashioned nuclear family.

Robocoastie wrote:

So my point is, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just like our kids (and especially industry right now) suffer from the school systems tossing out auto, wood, and industrial arts classes they also suffer when so called "traditional woman's work"/homemaking is belittled and ignored - in fact some contend it's the reason for the high divorce rate and they just may have a point.

They're removing IIA? I got an A in that class Sad

Non-traditional lifestyles might contribute to the divorce rate but it's not the 'reason'. In today's society we don't make decisions based on Right and Wrong. We base decisions on what is socially acceptable. Since divorce is no longer taboo, more people are taking that option.

Robocoastie wrote:

Rob

Slice

Yea their just our own observations. Do you always just dice up others posts or do you sometimes make posts of your own? All I've seen is diceing others. Just curious.

Rob

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:43 am

Robocoastie wrote:

Yea their just our own observations. Do you always just dice up others posts or do you sometimes make posts of your own? All I've seen is diceing others. Just curious.

Rob

I usually dice em up, check Missionary's last few posts before he flew the coop

I don't usually start my own posts unless I really have something to say. I'm a quiet guy IRL. Some of my earlier posts were different but they were lost during the Dark Times.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:09 am

slicea1a wrote:

MockingGods wrote:

If you let to much dust build up inside your computer it won't work for very long Wink

Dust can get in there???? Shocked

Unless your system is completely water-cooled (IOWs, it has fans pulling air in or pushing air out to cool it) then yes. In fact, in a typical air-cooled computer, dust will accumulate faster then it would accumulate on a horizontal surface. It’s generally recommended that you clean the dust from the system every month or so otherwise it can cause overheating problems.

The Learned Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 122

slicea1a wrote:

Robocoastie wrote:

Yea their just our own observations. Do you always just dice up others posts or do you sometimes make posts of your own? All I've seen is diceing others. Just curious.

Rob

I usually dice em up, check Missionary's last few posts before he flew the coop

I don't usually start my own posts unless I really have something to say. I'm a quiet guy IRL. Some of my earlier posts were different but they were lost during the Dark Times.

Okies, thanks. I found it odd is all. But 'tis good to know that's just how you participate.

cheers,

Rob

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:51 pm

Robocoastie wrote:

slicea1a wrote:

Robocoastie wrote:

Yea their just our own observations. Do you always just dice up others posts or do you sometimes make posts of your own? All I've seen is diceing others. Just curious.

Rob

I usually dice em up, check Missionary's last few posts before he flew the coop

I don't usually start my own posts unless I really have something to say. I'm a quiet guy IRL. Some of my earlier posts were different but they were lost during the Dark Times.

Okies, thanks. I found it odd is all. But 'tis good to know that's just how you participate.

cheers,

Rob

I Feel it is important to respond to a large post bit by bit rather than summarize

Just Arrived Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 7

Yeah. As Cygnus said earlier, I don't like it when I'm told what to do, so it really pisses me off when people throw out implications that society might be better if I just did what I'm told.
I think that if you're going to have kids you'd better be willing to raise them--don't bother bringing them into the world if you're going to fob it off on someone else. I know a lot of women who do a wonderful job as mothers and employees and to say that they would serve their family better by sitting around the house all day is an insult.
That being said, parenting should not only be the woman's job, neither should housework. I have a brain and like any being with a brain, I demand the right to use it for activities besides dusting and making my hubby a sammich.


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