Would extraterrestrial life disprove creationism?

Newbie Joined: Jul 17, 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Germany

As most of you probably know, the phoenix mars spacecraft has landed on mars and has started its mission to find water under its surface.
There is a probability that traces of live will be found.

So it made me wonder, what if we someday prove that there is in fact life outside the earth? Wouldn't that completely destroy the theistic ideas of god making life exclusively on earth and of abiogenesis being too improbable?

In a way, it would be comparable to god cheating on us XD .

What do you think, if life is indeed found to exist somewhere other than our home planet, won't the church find itself in trouble?
Especially creationism should be laid to rest once and for all.

...or not.

Grand Poster Joined: Jul 23, 2003 Posts: 1536 Location: NC

No. They would find a way to incorporate it into God's word. Who needs the truth when you have apologetics?

Resident Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 359

They'll find a way around it. The bible doesn't say that there's NO life on other planets. It really doesn't mention any other planet than earth.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:43 am

Cygnus wrote:

They'll find a way around it. The bible doesn't say that there's NO life on other planets. It really doesn't mention any other planet than earth.

Which is all too telling about its validity...among a million other things mind you! Razz

Resident Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 359

What would be more interesting and destructive to the fundamentalist's ends is if we found other lifeforms who could think and reason as we do and they didn't even have a religion like Christianity in their history. Why has god not revealed his plan for this other race and why has Jesus not saved them as well? If only god can create life, then why had he not created this race and imparted his morals into them? So if we could find an alien race such as this, then that would hopefully put the matter to rest. Or so one would hope.

Newbie Joined: Jun 16, 2008 Posts: 21

I'm inclined to think there's NOTHING that can disprove creationism to a creationist. Once they're "locked in" to that way of thinking they invest more and more time and energy defending it, bolstering it up and selectively finding "evidence" that proves it. This kind of zeal inspired the early christians to hold onto their beliefs as they were being tortured to death by the Romans, fed to the lions, burned alive, etc. I reckon there's a kind of key in human psychology that once it's been turned away from rational realism is unable to be turned back. This gives rise to a lot of the religiously-inspired fanaticism we see today.

For example, try suggesting to a 9/11, UFO of JFK conspiracist that maybe they could be wrong. Confused

You've got to remember that everything in the media is all part of a...

Satanic / Fed. Gov't / Chinese / Mafia / Zionist / (insert whatever) / plot.

However, finding extraterrestial intelligence might disprove creationism for everyone else. As far as I'm concerned creationism was proved wrong decades ago. It's dead in the water.

I'll just say two more things here.

First, I've suggested elsewhere in this forum (Know any YEC's? Ask them about oil, coal and gas.) a question that might be interesting to put to creationists.

Second, check this out... http://www.commonsensescience.org

Looks like a regular science website doesn't it? Don't be fooled!
It's a cover for creationist fundamentalists to promote their take on particle physics, cosmology and chemistry. Go to their "Links" to see where they're really coming from. All the usual suspects!

Sneaky. I'll give them that. Wink

BornAgainAthiest.

Newbie Joined: Jun 16, 2008 Posts: 21

O.k., having given this one more thought, I can think of a scenario where contact with intelligent extraterrestrial lifeforms disproves creationism to creationists and everyone else.

Aggressive, warlike aliens invade the Earth, easily overwhelming our armed forces and begin to systematically eradicate the entire human race! Shocked

This would be a 100%, cast-iron proof of the non-existence of god, creationism and the creationists too. Wink

BornAgainAthiest.

Newbie Joined: Jul 17, 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Germany

BornAgainAthiest wrote:

O.k., having given this one more thought, I can think of a scenario where contact with intelligent extraterrestrial lifeforms disproves creationism to creationists and everyone else.

Aggressive, warlike aliens invade the Earth, easily overwhelming our armed forces and begin to systematically eradicate the entire human race! Shocked

lol. That would be interesting.
But naturally the creationists would just call it another of god's judgements for our sinfull lifes... Or they'd just blame it all on satan XD .
Most likely sooner or later they'd also convert the aliens.

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:34 am

Theists always find a way to fit their god into the cracks of human knowledge, and, most likely, they always will.

Resident Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 359

BornAgainAthiest wrote:

O.k., having given this one more thought, I can think of a scenario where contact with intelligent extraterrestrial lifeforms disproves creationism to creationists and everyone else.

Aggressive, warlike aliens invade the Earth, easily overwhelming our armed forces and begin to systematically eradicate the entire human race! Shocked

This would be a 100%, cast-iron proof of the non-existence of god, creationism and the creationists too. Wink

BornAgainAthiest.

Maybe they'd find a way to fit that into Nostradamus's prophecies. Call it the apocalypse.

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:11 am

Booger wrote:

No. They would find a way to incorporate it into God's word. Who needs the truth when you have apologetics?

Exactly. The vatican already did comment on the idea of E.T life and they said that it doesn't contradict the belief in god as the aliens would be "gods children" too. LOL. Well if thats true then it seems that were not as special as we thought. Honestly the religious people will just come up with more strange rationalizations to incorporate it into their faith. Nothing will make them change their minds.


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