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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Once more from the top:

It's not a national election.
The US is not a single "nation". It is a federation of sovereign states.

The elections are STATE-BY-STATE for that reason.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If the US isn't one single nation already, then it should be.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cygnus wrote:
If the US isn't one single nation already, then it should be.

Why?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cygnus wrote:
Seekah wrote:
Currently I support the electoral college system.

Let us say that we switched to a "one person, one vote" system. There would be only a handful of states (those with the highest population) that would really matter in an election.

Let us say also that candidate A is running for president and a state with a high population (California) wants something that a state that has a low population (Wyoming) also wants. Let us further state that such a wanted resource is finite and can only be given to one state or the other.

In such a case, to whom do you think candidate A will give their support? Certainly not Wyoming with it's comparatively puny voter base. Why would candidate A support them if they can't get him/her elected?


Doesn't it already work like this, anyway? I think the electoral college should be abolished. People should get who they vote for.

It is odd how Seekah seems to be arguing against the EC Confused
I'm confused as to how someone could state a position and then argue the opposite position, but not seem to understand either.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:
Once more from the top:

It's not a national election.
The US is not a single "nation". It is a federation of sovereign states.

The elections are STATE-BY-STATE for that reason.


A federation of sovereign states is usually called a confederation. I don't think the US has been a true confederation since the constitution was approved.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Mr_C wrote:
Cygnus wrote:
Seekah wrote:
Currently I support the electoral college system.

Let us say that we switched to a "one person, one vote" system. There would be only a handful of states (those with the highest population) that would really matter in an election.

Let us say also that candidate A is running for president and a state with a high population (California) wants something that a state that has a low population (Wyoming) also wants. Let us further state that such a wanted resource is finite and can only be given to one state or the other.

In such a case, to whom do you think candidate A will give their support? Certainly not Wyoming with it's comparatively puny voter base. Why would candidate A support them if they can't get him/her elected?


Doesn't it already work like this, anyway? I think the electoral college should be abolished. People should get who they vote for.

It is odd how Seekah seems to be arguing against the EC Confused
I'm confused as to how someone could state a position and then argue the opposite position, but not seem to understand either.


How am I arguing against the electoral college? I thought I was making the point that if we had a "one person, one vote" system, it would be bad.

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