Glad you found that funny. Its really sad that you think that losing one's freedom and being made to do things against ones will is a laughing matter. The "bear's" quality of life is very low, but you never actually cared about such things. Now I know what you're truly about and that I've been correct all along about you. You say your about freedom and liberty, but you are lying when you say such things. You're only about your own freedom and liberty instead and screw everyone else.
Saitou Master of Logic
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:23 am
Saitou wrote:
I honestly found that funny. Nice one SJC.
Stop "exploiting" my "funny bone".
sjc wrote:
Glad you found that funny. Its really sad that you think that losing one's freedom and being made to do things against ones will is a laughing matter.
This from a socialist? That's funny!
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The "bear's" quality of life is very low, but you never actually cared about such things.
Oh brother. I think you're taking this bear thing a bit far. Let's not waste our time there. Since you posted the picture in the first place YOU must have thought it had comedic value.
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Now I know what you're truly about and that I've been correct all along about you. You say your about freedom and liberty, but you are lying when you say such things. You're only about your own freedom and liberty instead and screw everyone else.
So it's bad to buy goods from abroad, apparently it's bad to sell them abroad as well.
It is when you sell the farm as well. You're only suppose to sell what you're producing on the farm.
No, it's your farm, sell it if you want to and buy a factory in Thailand, if that's where you think you'll benefit the most. You are right though, US Citizens don't own any assets abroad.
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Not really, Japanese firms have developed a reputation for quality and reliability, and thus American consumers are willing to pay a higher price.
Not really, as seen by this new deal.
What? That makes no sense at all. There is a demand for reliable cars. Japanese cars have a reputation for high reliability. As such, they can command a higher price; the higher profits serve as a signal to get other automakers to produce higher-quality cars. However, there is also a demand for very cheap new cars; hence the deal and $7500 cars.
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Oh god, anything but cheap goods!!! ahhh!!! It would be so much better if mid-level cars cost $50000, nay, $100000!
Hardly. But you really don't care about that.
What don't I care about? I merely pointed out the logical incongruency in your complaint about Chinese automakers "flooding" the US market with cheap cars. If cheap cars are bad (according to you), then it must follow that expensive cars are good.
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And? If you want to drive around in a soda bottle on wheels, that's your business. It's your own body you're risking after all. Besides, none of the old-school Detroit cars fare well in crash tests, are you suggesting people (even those that can't afford it) be forced to buy a new car that meets some arbitrary safety standard?
Remember, "Unsafe at Any Speed"?
And it turns out the Corvair was as about as safe as the other cars in it's class. But that is irrelevant, and you failed to answer the question, so I'll ask again: are you suggesting people (even those that can't afford it) be forced to buy a new car that meets some arbitrary safety standard?
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You fundies really are full of it. What you just said is no different than when a theist puts their lives in the hands of their god and say that if anything happens its "God's Will" and that they don't trust in Man's Laws.
Actually, you're the one putting their faith in a higher power that consistently fails - the government.
Glad you found that funny. Its really sad that you think that losing one's freedom and being made to do things against ones will
My, that sounds like a perfect description of socialism.
sjc wrote:
You say your about freedom and liberty, but you are lying when you say such things. You're only about your own freedom and liberty instead and screw everyone else.
Actually, that's what you're saying when you boast about living off the hard work of others.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:25 am
offsprng46 wrote:
My, that sounds like a perfect description of socialism.
Hardly.
I think that it is highly immoral to want to give more freedom to a group, corporate America, who think nothing of using that freedom to abuse and even take away the freedoms of others, usually the most vulnerable members of society. So, in fact it is you guys who are the ones wanting to take away the rights and freedoms of others just because of your economically inspired religious beliefs. Theists also mistakenly believe that one can only be free if all are under their religion when in fact a theocracy is the worse form of tyranny, be it religious, political, or economic. Again, the terrorists have nothing on you for hating America. You prove this with your very words.
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Actually, that's what you're saying when you boast about living off the hard work of others.
I never boast. Though, by your statement you are showing your petty jealousy.
Saitou Master of Logic
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:43 am
sjc wrote:
I think that it is highly immoral to want to give more freedom to a group, corporate America, who think nothing of using that freedom to abuse and even take away the freedoms of others, usually the most vulnerable members of society.
Libertarians are for everyone having maximum freedom so your charge is perplexing. Also what freedoms does corporate America take away from anyone and how? Governments can take away freedoms and opportunities but business creates them.
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Actually, that's what you're saying when you boast about living off the hard work of others.
sjc wrote:
I never boast. Though, by your statement you are showing your petty jealousy.
That might be because you have nothing to boast about more than anything else.
My, that sounds like a perfect description of socialism.
Hardly.
I think that it is highly immoral to want to give more freedom to a group, corporate America, who think nothing of using that freedom to abuse and even take away the freedoms of others, usually the most vulnerable members of society.
When have I ever once said that one group ought to have more freedom than another? This is an outright lie.
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So, in fact it is you guys who are the ones wanting to take away the rights and freedoms of others just because of your economically inspired religious beliefs.
Classic projection. We want complete freedom, provided you don't infringe upon anyone else's freedom.
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Theists also mistakenly believe that one can only be free if all are under their religion when in fact a theocracy is the worse form of tyranny, be it religious, political, or economic.
And just what exactly is an economic theocracy? You can call us all the names you want, it doesn't make anything you say true.
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Again, the terrorists have nothing on you for hating America. You prove this with your very words.
You hate Canada, poopy head.
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Actually, that's what you're saying when you boast about living off the hard work of others.
I never boast. Though, by your statement you are showing your petty jealousy.
More projection? Damn.
CET Master of Logic
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:46 am
High school graduates doing manual labor and making close to 6 figures is untenable. The American economy is moving away from manufacturing and moving into service and research. There's nothing wrong with that, we moved from agriculture and into manufacturing in the 19th century. That's the march of progress. Eventually India will do the same, as will all other countries until manual labor is a thing of the past, and only done by machines.
The ice cart driver became a refrigerator repairman. Now the auto worker needs to become something else, perhaps a mechanic, auto detailer, painter, etc.
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I honestly found that funny. Nice one SJC.
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