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Brian37
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Now, strictly from a sense that there might be situational problems with other family members, or if you have kids, disagreements on how to raise them. It is an issue you need to be sure of before marrying ANYONE.
BUT, when you read this article, he says that "atheists" will lead Christians to
serve the devil.
http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/video-pat-robertson-says-christians-and-atheists-can-t-marry
This is the same bigoted crap that allowed Christians to pass laws saying blacks and whites couldn't marry. |
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Brian37
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slicea1a
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I'm not surprised. Pat is a dill hole |
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DigitalAtheist
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Thanks, Brian. You've reminded me of a post that I've been meaning to put up here for a few weeks now. I have seized the moment, and posted my question to this forum: http://www.infidelguy.com/ftopict-1262.html
I thought readers of this post might be interested.
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daughterofthought
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Pat is more than a dill hole, he is the reason why I don't want to be involved with a Christian male in the first place. *twitch* |
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Brian37
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| Pat is more than a dill hole, he is the reason why I don't want to be involved with a Christian male in the first place. *twitch* |
Don't misunderstand me, I do understand. I wouldn't marry a Christian myself. But it is not because of ignorance or bigotry, but from a pragmatic standpoint problems could arise which I don't want to deal with.
HAVING SAID THAT, there should never be a law against interfaith marriage anymore than their should be a law against interracial marriage.
If a Christian and atheist want to marry I would only advise them to discuss the issue before making the commitment and talk to others currently in that situation, and not just one couple, but many.
BUT that is no different than if a couple get married and never discuss the issue of having kids and find out too late that one wants one, and the other doesn't.
It is no different than if they don't discuss ahead of time and the husband doesn't want the wife to work and the wife wants to.
It isn't just about religion, it is about doing your homework. |
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slicea1a
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| daughterofthought wrote: |
| Pat is more than a dill hole, he is the reason why I don't want to be involved with a Christian male in the first place. *twitch* |
Or a Christian Male's Family. Imagine spending Thanksgiving at your In Law's.
The same is true for Catholic-Protestant couples, or any such mix. |
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DustinP
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Eon
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For me, it really depends on what they mean when they say "Christian".
The only useful information that word is likely to give you is that they have some kind of respect or admiration for the teachings of Jesus Christ (and even that's not a guarantee, considering cultural Christianity). Is does not tell you their opinion on the truth of the Bible, their socio-political values, the way they think of people who do not share the label "Christian", what they consider to be a true Christian, who they think is going to hell, whether or not they believe in a hell, whether or not they believe in any afterlife at all, the divinity of Jesus, the historicity of Jesus, the existence of Jesus, the possibility of miracles, the nature of God, the abilities of God, or even the existence of God.
"Christian" has become a truly vacuous term. If you want to find out what a person believes, talk to them and find out.
Of course, this is Pat Robertson we're talking about, and I imagine his definition of "Christian" is significantly narrower than the number of people who do identify as Christians. Personally, I don't think atheists or any intelligent person
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marry Pat Robertson's kind of Christian, unless you really want to be stuck with a person who believes you deserve to burn in hell forever. |
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djones
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Of course, this is Pat Robertson we're talking about, and I imagine his definition of "Christian" is significantly narrower than the number of people who do identify as Christians. |
Unless he's talking about how America is a majority Christian country or being interviewed by Glenn Back. I'd say Robertson's definition of Christian is something that's extremely fluid depending on the circumstances. |
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MarcusAurelius
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What spiritual advise would sheikh Robertson tell his Xtians sheeple if one of their children becomes a atheists , Will he advise them to bring their kids to the town square and stone them? |
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HighPriestessLois
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Well, to be honest, I would never marry a Christian, anyway, so I guess Pat is getting his wish.  |
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h12hardcore
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In fairness to Robertson you probably shouldn't marry someone with whom you share such a fundamental disagreement. I mean if you're spouse has a sort of vague sense of spirituality, or kind of pantheistic view of the world than I suppose it doesn't matter. But I'd imagine those wouldn't be Pat Robertson's idea of Christians. I mean it does seem to me if I was dating someone and they told me they believed for example that the earth was less than 6,000 years old, or that there's no such thing as Evolution, or that Condoms are infraction of God's will, I think I'd reconsider them as a life partner. Honestly of all the ridiculous and illogical things Robertson has said over the years this is a surprisingly valid point. |
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Brian37
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What we have in common is that we disagree. What Robertson implies and or advocates is NEVER as far as diverse unions.
If anyone has seen "Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner" what can and often does happen is that children don't often follow the script their parents sell them.
The difference between Robertnuts and I is, most certainly I myself would find it hard for myself to marry a Christian, I would not presume to tell another human being what their rights are. I would still support them even if I don't agree with the choice.
Where he is wrong is that he fails to take into account that humans will never agree and that disagreement even happens within a family.
I can't find myself marrying a believer of any label, just like he can't find himself marrying an atheist. But we are not other people, much less our offspring as a species.
What we do have in common is the obvious conflict that might arise from such a union. But that is not up to him or I to dictate. |
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