The Obama Deception

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This is a high-quality version of the new documentary,
"The Obama Deception". It's just shy of two hours. IT IS WORTH YOUR
TIME. It is not a ridiculous neo-con film, it is non-partisan and will appeal to supporters of Ron Paul as well as the people at large.

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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:17 pm

It's entitled, The Obama deception. Doesn't sound to, "unbiased" right from the jump. If they would like Obama supporters to watch it, they should have thought more carefully about the title. Then again, this documentary came out pretty fast. One must wonder about the level of research from the get go. I'll watch and post my concerns here.

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:41 pm

Hm, it's a pretty good documentary actually, better than I expected.
The facts correlate with what I got from other sources, at least the ones I knew about.
What is somewhat annoying is that dark and melodramatic presentation... but o well.

The real problem of this "movement" is that they seemingly just don't get what the actual root causes are.
It seems like they have this idea that there is a small group of people who control everything and everyone, who are the ultimate evil geniuses only on the lookout for more money and power...
I can pretty much guarantee that there is no such organization. Since these people would have to be extraordinarily intelligent, they should be able to understand that money and power mean nothing if the society is in ruins. A king of beggars may be endlessly more rich than the other beggars, but compared to normal people he still would be poor.
That's why it would be completely irrational for a group of people to try and get a monopoly of wealth and power at the expense of the rest of the world.

Are there people who have influence on the us-president? Of course. But is he truly a puppet of somebody? No. Everyone has influence over someone else, but no one has ultimate control. There is no puppet master, only puppets.

The proponents of this Obama-deception make a crucial mistake in thinking that if only they could replace these evil people with good and lawful ones, everything would be fine.
Sorry to inform you, but you're completely wrong. It's not the people who are the problem, it's the system that we have set up. It's the monopolies of force and wealth that already exist, that are the root problems. You can put the greatest and most noble thinkers in the world in a position where they have power over everyone else. They will become corrupted and evil, it's only a matter of time.

What really has to change is the fact that our governments are the only institutions that are legally able to use force against the citizens. As long as there is a minority that is able to coerce and control the majority through threats and violence, the cycle described in this film will forever continue.

So, the really important thing that has to be done is weakening the government power, which can be realized by forfeiting our dependence on the state. Never use any government help despite their promises, except in real emergency (but realize that it will probably backfire in one way or another even then). Understand that every state program is designed to primarily make money for the state, you are always secondary, etc.
What we have to do is NOT look for a better and more lawful authority, but instead take responsibility for ourselves. That is really the fundamental venom poisoning our society, the fear of taking responsibility and the need to ask authority for help. If we can't take complete and full responsibility for everything that we do, freedom will forever be nothing more than a word.

But if there are no puppet masters, how come we are in this mess?
The answer to that question lies in an understanding of human nature. Humans basically always act the same way depending on the situation. It doesn't matter how righteous or malevolent they are. For example, if you setup a situation where they can gain wealth by taking money from some people they don't even know without any repercussions, well, of course they will take it, they would have to be stupid not to. So since politics is a system that encourages corruption, naturally politicians will become corrupt.

The makers of this film have the right facts, but the conclusions they draw are rather superficial. Instead of babbling about oh teh evil bankers they should have taken some time describing how the whole current societal and political structure is setup and explaining basic human psychology. From the conclusion of that alone it would become very clear why Obama doesn't keep his promises, etc. and it would become obvious that unless we can change our general consciousness and understanding of these things, governments will forever grow and implode and grow and implode 'till the end of time.

But no... they don't do that of course, because they aren't ready to give up their own security for true independence yet. Which is kinda understandable...

Despite all that I do really recommend watching this documentary, just for the facts.

Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:53 am

Hey, American politics is all about deception. I'd rather be deceived by the good-looking, articulate man we have as president now rather then the oafishness of the past eight years. Besides, I like Barrack. He makes me smile rather then cringe.

When the path to public office is based upon popularity, the politician learns very fast to say what the electorate wants to hear not what they actually believe. To deceive is to be elected, so lying is pragmatic. Am I ok with this? Nope. That's why I don't vote.

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IT IS WORTH YOUR TIME.

Heh... I rather doubt it.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:00 am

I listened until ... globalists. Oh my, another conspiracy theory. Like 9/11 from Moore etc. Yeah, the rich plan all that in secret meetings and telefon conferences.
I can imagine this, "Well Obama, we will let you have the chair, but you must do this and this." and Obama replies, "Yes Sir, thank you sir".
I dislike Obama, like Clinton he is the darling of everyone, a man who can do no wrong. Saviour of America and the world. Why not critisice him for his faults when they arise, instead to invent theories that can not be true.

Here is a conspiracy theory of my own. The Democrats published that crap, pretenting to be anti Obama, to make it, for people like me, even more difficult to speak something against him. Rolling Eyes


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