The free market is central planning.

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 70

I’m sick of this glorification of government or the deionization of it. The free market and government central planning are basically the same and identical with some minor exceptions. The government is a hierarchical system and every part of the free market is composed of hierarchical systems its basically debating centralized planning VS distributed centralized planning. Its not that if you put this magical sticker and name the same hierarchical system a free enterprise the magical unicorn of capitalism is going to spawn and use capitalist magic to make everything better.

Resident Joined: Oct 13, 2005 Posts: 360 Location: USA

The free market is non coercive, whereas the government is.

The two are entirely at odds with one another, as a truly free market cannot exist with a government.

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 70

Well hi.
I don’t understand the word “coercive” and can you explain how this can effect any thing ?
And I didn’t ask if the free market can exist with the government I’m telling you the free market and the government running of everything are the same thing !

The free market = government central planning 2.0

Let me elaborate did you worth a program or take class where they explained how firms work ?
So lets analyze how a firm creates something in a free market and the government central planning.

Free market a group of special people gather and decide what to produce we name them the CEO’s.

Government a group of special people gather and decide what to produce we name them the government officials.

Free market the plan is analyzed and perfected via the employed scientists , engineers , architects.

Government the plan is analyzed and perfected via the employed scientists , engineers , architects.

And the product is produced in a factory that works the same.

Seriously where is the difference ? If I make subsidiary government own firms that are rated and need to compete agents itch other with more then one product do I have a government own free market Very Happy

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You have now all the wonders of market , market selection and elimination of bad products and the government owns everything. With some minor modifications I created government distributed central planning and it haze the same property like our modern markets.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 522

Here is one big difference: there are competing firms in a free market. They have to constantly try to be better than the other so they are constantly upgrading and bettering their products. The government, on the other hand, has little incentive to build a better mouse trap, so to speak. The difference between the free market and the government is competition. There is competition between government branches, but this is more often than not unproductive because it is internal. In a private business, there is less competition between different parts (that is not to say different employees).

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 70

Cygnus wrote:

Here is one big difference: there are competing firms in a free market. They have to constantly try to be better than the other so they are constantly upgrading and bettering their products. The government, on the other hand, has little incentive to build a better mouse trap, so to speak. The difference between the free market and the government is competition. There is competition between government branches, but this is more often than not unproductive because it is internal. In a private business, there is less competition between different parts (that is not to say different employees).

Not if it’s a monopoly.
Now I’m telling you to try to emulate competition in a government owned firms to create distributed central planning ,

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 70

BUMP why I’ not getting a response if I say something smart and the discussion suddenly stops ? You know I’m able to admit defeat and a error if I make one I have demonstrated this on this forums.

So don’t be afraid I’m not here to perched and show my example of the ultimate truth.


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