Americans - Many Evil and stupid people

Newbie First Class Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Posts: 28

I am very touch by this article :

Americans - Many Evil
And Stupid People
By Mohammed Daud Miraki, MA, MA, PhD

http://www.rense.com/general70/stupd.htm

and more touch by this one :

Death Made In America
Wondering if your conscience is still anesthetized
Mohammed Daud Miraki, MA, MA, PhD

http://www.rense.com/general70/deathmde.htm

Too much silence about this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:26 am

Dude.. what are you doing? Are you building up to just spam and attack those you don't agree with? If you are going start that.. be warned. You will get banned.

You are flinging muds on the walls. Stop!And rense.com? Surely you jest?

Newbie First Class Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Posts: 28

Infidelguy, I insane of rense.com.

The fact that women put at the world deformed children, that disturbs me. Not you? I did not want too to imply me in the article, and maybe I would have to refer more to another site.

Doesn't that touch you this subject of the children and the behaviors of malicious people ?

You want to banish me, because about human condition ? You can. I do not want flooder here. These subjects appeared marginal to me and disturbing. I thought that you were of this rebellious hardening. The atheists of Quebec say that you are a “brigth”. Your reputation is perhaps overrated.

Good ok, I will be held a little quiet and too not disturbed your site.

Dommage, tu aurais trouvé que j'ai beaucoup à publier sur plein plein de sujets humains.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 514

I scoff at the massive stupidity of the man that wrote this article. The way he catagorizes Americans as result of all of the ignorant rednecks who responded visciously to his article reflects his ignorance of America. What he failed to take into account is that there is a small yet very vocal percentage Americans in the south, mostly from the KKK, who react strongly to anti-Americanism. I myself have one of these depleted uranium shells in my room (without gunpowder) maybe I should get rid of it. However, he ignores the problem that this is not being made known in America. Many people would not see him as a credible source anyway. For Americans, he has practically no ethos i his argument. If he can't see that with his Phd, that's HIS problem. I did not ok the use of uranium munitions, start this war, or even support our current president.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:47 am

I'm not quite sure what to say about this. Too wide open. To show what I think of the good and bad in America, I'll enter this post of mine from the other forum:

kmisho wrote:

I went to see Senator Dodd at the Virginia Holocaust Museum because he has a book out called Letters from Nurembuerg . The book is about his dad's roll as interogator and prosecutor in the Nuremberg trials and is composed of the letters that his dad wrote to his mom everyday while he was away in Nuremberg.

The timing of this was interesting because just 2 days before this I was defending the idea of a "world government" in reference to stopping genocide. Having been to this little booksigning and speech, I am even more for the idea of a world court. Chris Dodd quoted this most astounding passage from the opening statement by Robert Jackson , which he said his father had made all his children memorize (that dictator!)

"That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power has ever paid to Reason."

This one sentence captures the essence of the "moral capital" that the US was able to bring to bear following WW2, without which the Marshall Plan and the UN would probably have gotten nowhere, and which has been completely spent by wrongheaded US foreign policies ever since (particularly in these Bush years with the invasion of Iraq, the Patriot Act, Gitmo, and mealy-mouthed defenses of turture.) The US is now "morally bankrupt" in a very concrete non-metaphorical sense. What a waste...

Thomas Dodd played a key role in the trials as well, being the one who famously entered into evidence the Shrunken Head of Buchenwald .

Dodd the younger, Senator Chris, gave a very eloquent speech about all of this and insisted that the rule of law based in human rights is the only proper way forward for humanity. He wondered, as his dad had wondered aloud to him, that if the US had not wasted the time following WW1 with fervent isolationism and had fought for a "Nuremberg" then, if the Holocaust might have been prevented had perpetrators known they would face prosecution following the war. Maybe...

Since WW2, when we said "never again", we have a horrible record with genocide. We have either stepped in long after genocidal attacks were carried out (Milosevic, Hussein) or not at all (Rwanda, Darfur). We have blocked any attempt to create a world court based in universal human rights. All of this has succeeded in nothing but giving a green light to genocidal designs. Tibet and Zimbabwe are threatening to go up like roman candles. In Iraq, the US is acting as fuel on genocidal fires that were burning long before we got there.

I expect very little from politicians, but one thing I hope is that they know some history so we can avoid repeating the worst of it. Dodd actually knows some history. Indeed, some of the most important history in modern times walked right through his front door. I was impressed.

Prior to going to this event, I joked with my wife that I almost never come this close to politics (meaning within 10 of a Sentor). I had no idea how close. A big chunk of the democratic leadership was there, including "give 'em hell" Harry Reid and Patrick Leahy .

Richmond is lucky to have the Virginia Holocaust Museum . The newest exhibit is a mockup of the Nuremberg "Palace of Justice", apparently the only exhibit of its kind in the world.

Grand Poster Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 2505

I used to always make fun of America and Americans, I still do sometimes, but they aren't some kind of grand exception in a perfect world. Every country I've heard of does some horrible shit, and has some really stupid people. If you want to try and fix that good, but I don't understand how singling out one country as evil and stupid does that. It's not some kind of radical new idea, and most people (yes even the ones who aren't Americans) probably agreed or disagreed with it as soon as they read the title.

It's not true anyway, most Americans aren't evil though I'm not really sure about stupid, it depends on how you mean it. Most Americans are ignorant, or willfully ignorant, and just trying to live out their lives. I've never been to other countries, but I imagine that's pretty much how it is everywhere. Most of the people on this forum probably read stuff about evolution, and war and such, they probably read sciencey blogs and post comments and see crazy comments from people who could easily be called stupid or evil. Neither side of those comments are what most people think, most people probably don't know what it's talking about, or even that the blog exists.

Also no, "more than" 600 isn't a reasonable sample of a country with about 303,868,371 people. Saying it isn't some pure scientific study doesn't magically make it okay to generalize.

He actually says 600 hundred, isn't that redundant? I googled it and other people use it as well, just looks weird to me. When you see 600, I assume you read it as six hundred anyway...

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:30 am

Uncertainty wrote:

Most Americans are ignorant, or willfully ignorant, and just trying to live out their lives.

One thing that forces me to question the intelligence of the typical American is the sheer amount of single occupied, 2 to 3 ton, box-shaped, V8 or V10, large-displacement vehicles currently being used in this country. I just don’t understand this level of stupidity. Every time I pass a gas station and see the prices edge ever higher it makes smile when I consider how much it’s costing them for this irrational behavior. Unfortunately, it’s not just affecting them, it’s affecting everyone.

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:29 am

Keeping up with the Joneses is definitely doing a lot of damage around here.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 514

Quote:

Also no, "more than" 600 isn't a reasonable sample of a country with about 303,868,371 people. Saying it isn't some pure scientific study doesn't magically make it okay to generalize.

Definately my biggest problem with his argument. It is definately not wise to put something on the internet virupulently anti-American and expect to get anything else than hate mail from only the very bigoted KKK card-carrying Americans. His style acts like a magnet that would only elicit responses from this group. The average American isn't going to respond, of course.

Grand Poster Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 2505

MockingGods wrote:

Uncertainty wrote:

Most Americans are ignorant, or willfully ignorant, and just trying to live out their lives.

One thing that forces me to question the intelligence of the typical American is the sheer amount of single occupied, 2 to 3 ton, box-shaped, V8 or V10, large-displacement vehicles currently being used in this country. I just don’t understand this level of stupidity. Every time I pass a gas station and see the prices edge ever higher it makes smile when I consider how much it’s costing them for this irrational behavior. Unfortunately, it’s not just affecting them, it’s affecting everyone.

Most people I see and talk to just don't think at all about anything other than what’s directly in front of them. They're too busy copy & pasting "Support our Troops!" bulletins on myspace to muse about such things. The “just trying to live their lives” seems to be the most true, I guess maybe they think they have their own problems to deal with. I think that’s laughable, but most people probably wouldn’t agree with me.

My habit of questioning everything, even accepted things doesn't gain me any friends Crying or Very sad

Newbie First Class Joined: Mar 29, 2008 Posts: 48

The issue regarding the DU rounds is disturbing. There are still several unanswered questions surrounding the effects on the local population when they are used. There is still plenty of debate about whether or not they can increase the risk of cancer and birth defects. In solid form depleted uranium is far less radioactive than normal exposure to the sun; however when fired from the main gun of a A-10 Warthog or a AC-130 gun ship a tiny portion of each round is broken down into a fine aerosol which can be inhaled or ingested and the particles remains in your system for more-or-less the rest of your life. This is where the debate lies. The United States of course argues that this is harmless, while others argue that the uranium has an effect. Ultimately nobody knows for sure, and certainly your typical American isn’t aware of any of this. The question is: if our government/military knew that the claims made by Mohammed Daud Miraki (and many others) were in fact true, would they continue to use DU rounds? Honestly, I can’t answer that question, I’m just not sure. I’d like to believe that we would permanently ban their use, but I can see an argument being made that the rounds were too vital to our defense to stop using. All of this is just speculation on the part of all involved parties, but worth considering none-the-less.
As far as whether we’re stupid or not, I would definitely say no; however I honestly fear for the direction our nation is headed. For a view into where I feel we might be headed as a nation, view the hilarious/terrifying movie Idiocracy.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:41 am

Uncertainty wrote:

My habit of questioning everything, even accepted things doesn't gain me any friends

I seem to suffer from the same habit Very Happy

Although, over time I've learned you can use this questioning nature to your advantage, if properly done. You can actually make friends with it and have some fun at the same time. It is however, a fine line to walk. People don’t like their precious traditions questioned.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:50 am

MrSmith wrote:

The issue regarding the DU rounds is disturbing. There are still several unanswered questions surrounding the effects on the local population when they are used. There is still plenty of debate about whether or not they can increase the risk of cancer and birth defects. In solid form depleted uranium is far less radioactive than normal exposure to the sun; however when fired from the main gun of a A-10 Warthog or a AC-130 gun ship a tiny portion of each round is broken down into a fine aerosol which can be inhaled or ingested and the particles remains in your system for more-or-less the rest of your life. This is where the debate lies. The United States of course argues that this is harmless, while others argue that the uranium has an effect. Ultimately nobody knows for sure, and certainly your typical American isn’t aware of any of this. The question is: if our government/military knew that the claims made by Mohammed Daud Miraki (and many others) were in fact true, would they continue to use DU rounds? Honestly, I can’t answer that question, I’m just not sure. I’d like to believe that we would permanently ban their use, but I can see an argument being made that the rounds were too vital to our defense to stop using. All of this is just speculation on the part of all involved parties, but worth considering none-the-less.
As far as whether we’re stupid or not, I would definitely say no; however I honestly fear for the direction our nation is headed. For a view into where I feel we might be headed as a nation, view the hilarious/terrifying movie Idiocracy.

I'm a bit confused here; perhaps you could clarify something for me? Ok, they're firing rounds with depleted uranium in them and I'd imagine the primary purpose of that round is to kill or otherwise render harmless a particular enemy or target. What purpose does the depleted Uranium serve in the round or why is it in there beyond the primary purpose of the round? Is it just incidentally in there, or what? It doesn’t make sense to me that they’d add something to a round, like depleted Uranium, if it didn’t enhance their objective, like killing or rendering harmless more people.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 514

Quote:

It doesn’t make sense to me that they’d add something to a round, like depleted Uranium, if it didn’t enhance their objective, like killing or rendering harmless more people.

The purpose of depleted uranium in munitions is ballistic. The only rounds with depleted uranium in them are the 30 mm rounds in the A-10's cannon, or other armor piercing rounds. Uranium is heavy, which is why a depleted uranium core is added to the cannon rounds in the A-10: it gives the bullet the added power necessary to bust a tank or BMP's hull. Depleted uranium is not found in rifle rounds, bombs, or anything else but armor-piercing cannon rounds.

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:11 am

Cygnus wrote:

Quote:

It doesn’t make sense to me that they’d add something to a round, like depleted Uranium, if it didn’t enhance their objective, like killing or rendering harmless more people.

The purpose of depleted uranium in munitions is ballistic. The only rounds with depleted uranium in them are the 30 mm rounds in the A-10's cannon, or other armor piercing rounds. Uranium is heavy, which is why a depleted uranium core is added to the cannon rounds in the A-10: it gives the bullet the added power necessary to bust a tank or BMP's hull. Depleted uranium is not found in rifle rounds, bombs, or anything else but armor-piercing cannon rounds.

So you're saying the DU actually enhances the rounds propulsion? In other words, it makes the explosion that propels the round more powerful?


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