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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

romans120 wrote:
As long as you have to say "all we need is ______ "then your going to have a problem getting around infinities and eternals.


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'Eternals' and 'infinities' are things we can definitely never observe or prove actually exist, although they may. Speculation about something being 'infinite' or 'eternal' can never be more than speculation.

'Indefinitely large', 'having no known or knowable bounds', this is as much as we can honestly say. True infinity is a different thing again.
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Whereas proposing a God is not a valid solution to existence because you have only added another layer of mystery to the problem, along with the question of what created God? So actually it has zero explanatory power, along with the implied infinite regression of creators.


It's turtles all the way down Wink
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BobSpence1 wrote:
Whereas proposing a God is not a valid solution to existence because you have only added another layer of mystery to the problem, along with the question of what created God? So actually it has zero explanatory power, along with the implied infinite regression of creators.


It's turtles all the way down Wink


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BobSpence1 wrote:
Whereas proposing a God is not a valid solution to existence because you have only added another layer of mystery to the problem, along with the question of what created God? So actually it has zero explanatory power, along with the implied infinite regression of creators.


It's turtles all the way down Wink


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We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are.
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BobSpence1 wrote:
'Eternals' and 'infinities' are things we can definitely never observe or prove actually exist, although they may. Speculation about something being 'infinite' or 'eternal' can never be more than speculation.

'Indefinitely large', 'having no known or knowable bounds', this is as much as we can honestly say. True infinity is a different thing again.


Well put. I ended up learning all of that while earning a math degree. Before I learned about it I hadn't thought about it really. It sure is fun to speculate about!
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