An Anarchist Revolution Or Nothing

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:25 pm

"Friend" is an interesting contextualizing word for anarchy.
Tell me, Spartacus (if that really is you):

Are anarchists "friends" in "community", or
are anarchists "cronies" in a "mob"?

In short, is anarchy elegant or is it brute?

I'm not opposed to anarchy, but this is a point on the subject that I have been seeking elucidation on. Looking forward to reading your opinion.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:22 pm

DigitalAtheist wrote:

"Friend" is an interesting contextualizing word for anarchy.
Tell me, Spartacus (if that really is you):

Are anarchists "friends" in "community", or
are anarchists "cronies" in a "mob"?

In short, is anarchy elegant or is it brute?

I'm not opposed to anarchy, but this is a point on the subject that I have been seeking elucidation on. Looking forward to reading your opinion.

Concepts of anarchy reflect the personality of their proponents, therefore spartacus' anarchy would for example be very different from ali's anarchy.
Just like atheists in essence simply don't believe in gods, the only thing that anarchists have in common is that they don't believe that humans need states and governments.

However, I would be quite interested in hearing spartacus' answer, even though I'm fairly sure of what it will be.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:44 pm

I think all people who argue such ideology actually want an improved existence and are dissatisfied, to some extent, with what we currently have. This is a noble endeavor none of us have the answers for. Our societies are too complex to respond favorably to any single ideology. This reality might make it impossible to radically enact any change, and change will come slowly as it usually does. It's my impression that nationalism will be the next overarching ideology to begin loosing its gloss.

The Learned Joined: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 120

NASTY CIVILZATION

Since the start of slavery 7000 years ago, humanity has existed as a mass disaster and tragedy. Since 7000 years ago humanity is living a never ending nightmare and horror, physical, emotional, and psychological, a never ending suffering, pain and premature death.

This has nothing to do with nature of wo/mankind; this has nothing to do with evolution, history or fate. We live under a dictatorial system designed and maintained by the ruling few to control, exploit and loot the people and the planet.

The system is maintained by the ugliest and nastiest section of the human population, the cruelest people on earth, because they are willing enough to do what is necessary for the maintenance of their hegemony, hierarchy, thus preserving their system for centuries.

Well the system must be stopped if we want to save what has remained of us and of the planet. Nearly 7 billion people live now on the planet, 90% of which live in permanent and utter misery. Why did so many people agree to succumb to such a condition in the first place? Why did the people let others rule and enslave them? Why did they allow nasty individuals to become a dictator over them and permitting the ruler to rule? Why do not the people rebel and topple the ruler out of existence?

The nasty rulers are brutal in their treatment of the living, and this brutality is what kept them in power. But we are becoming more and more aware of their all encompassing brutality and one day soon we are going to attack.

We are going to terminate this 7000 years of slavery and control, bringing to an end the enslavement of humanity. So get ready people, you have nothing to lose but gain at last a worthwhile living which is deprived from the majority of the world population.

Let’s make this second decade of the 21st century the last decade of the existence of the capitalist system and the state. The time is right, the condition is ripe, and we have all the means necessary for the abolishment of the market and hierarchy.

The time has come for the total elimination of money and its social relation of slavery and terminating the sources and causes of power and profit for ever. Humanity deserves a better existence than this never ending misery and suffering and exploitation, the time has come for liberating humanity from 7000 years of torture, poverty and pain.

The time has arrived to kick the ruler out of his self-made post and stop all the disasters and catastrophes that he is causing just for the purpose of continuing his privilege and authority.
The capitalist system is not a natural system; it is made and maintained by those who want to be on the top of the hierarchy, on top of the food chain, as though I was a fish. Well I am not a fish; I am an anarcho-social revolutionary, who together with the oppressed humanity we are going to destroy capitalism and its state for eternity.

Spartacus Anarchus

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:05 am

Still not talking to anyone, Spartacus?

An anarchist revolution without dialog? Is that what you want?

How about answering some questions before you write another message to nobody in particular?

No, not my questions. The questions that have already been put to you by others!

Deal with them and engage in some dialog - then we might take you seriously!

Stop reciting your mantras and TALK TO US!

Your so-called 'friend' and 'fellow revolutionary',

BornAgainAthiest.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:25 pm

Surveying these posts, I think that Spartacus is a most interesting specimen of spammer/troll.

There is, of course, not much to tell, because Sparty has not responded to a single question, ever. It is less of an anarchism, than it is fascism. – a fascism in which the great leader lurks at the computer and only opens the door when Mom comes to his/her room to deliver supper.

Seriously though, it seems likely that we have here another case of mental illness. The incoherence of rhetoric, lack of willingness to support claims, and religious structure of his/her argument is indicative of some more serious problems. This is not your typical spammer. People get paid money to spam, and who the heck would pay for this?

Googling any one sentence from Sparty's posts reveal that the exact same behaviour (and posts) appear on multiple forums. I recommend two things:

1.
for fellow forum users: ignore this person
(though it appears that most people have caught onto this),

and

2.
a one-time recommendation for Spartacus: seek some qualified help.

Newbie Joined: Dec 08, 2008 Posts: 23

Anarco-socialism is without a doubt the best example of an oxymoron that I've ever encountered.

The fact that evil occurs in this world does not somehow validate anarco-socialism (even if such a thing were possible). In many ways I see a a lot of similarities between Spartacus' beliefs and religion.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Oct 24, 2005 Posts: 679