here is a rich, deep kind of irony that must be shared. I'm blogging this from the Apple store in the Mall of America, because I'm too amused to want to wait until I get back to my hotel room.
I went to attend a screening of the creationist propaganda movie, Expelled, a few minutes ago. Well, I tried … but I was Expelled! It was kind of weird — I was standing in line, hadn't even gotten to the point where I had to sign in and show ID, and a policeman pulled me out of line and told me I could not go in. I asked why, of course, and he said that a producer of the film had specifically instructed him that I was not to be allowed to attend. The officer also told me that if I tried to go in, I would be arrested. I assured him that I wasn't going to cause any trouble.
I went back to my family and talked with them for a while, and then the officer came back with a theater manager, and I was told that not only wasn't I allowed in, but I had to leave the premises immediately. Like right that instant.
I complied.
I'm still laughing though. You don't know how hilarious this is. Not only is it the extreme hypocrisy of being expelled from their Expelled movie, but there's another layer of amusement. Deep, belly laugh funny. Yeah, I'd be rolling around on the floor right now, if I weren't so dang dignified.
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Raligan Post Noob
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:14 am
That's awesome- scientologist style gestapo tactics from Xians, what is the world coming to?
The rest of the article reveals the best part- they aren't very good at what they do.
jkorath Grand Poster
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:57 pm
thats pretty good. I look forward to hearing how Dawkins reacts to it.
infidelguy Site Admin
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:31 pm
NueGene why did they target you? I assume you were bad-mouthing the film in line or something?
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Raligan Post Noob
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:53 am
infidelguy wrote:
NueGene why did they target you? I assume you were bad-mouthing the film in line or something?
I think it was quoted from a blog by PZ Myers- the pharyngula guy.
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:52 pm
Oh... I guess the quotes didn't work!!!! tee-hee. Damn I feel stupid!
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NueGene Newbie First Class
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:05 pm
jkorath wrote:
thats pretty good. I look forward to hearing how Dawkins reacts to it.
Thank you JKorath,
Dawkins' conversation with PZ Myers is up on the main site. Feel free to check it out, if you haven't already.
Enjoy,
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NueGene Newbie First Class
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:34 pm
infidelguy wrote:
NueGene why did they target you? I assume you were bad-mouthing the film in line or something?
That Quote was from Pharyngula blog. (PZ Myers blog) I will endeavor to be more clear in my following posts.
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Posted:
Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:02 pm
Richard Dawkins review of
Expelled
and his account of “the Good Friday Fiasco”.
Quote:
From the review:
The alleged association between Darwinism and Nazism is harped on for what seems like hours, and it is quite simply an outrage. We are supposed to believe that Hitler was influenced by Darwin. Hitler was ignorant and bonkers enough for his hideous mind to have imbibed some sort of garbled misunderstanding of Darwin (along with his very ungarbled understanding of the anti-semitism of Martin Luther, and of his own never-renounced Roman Catholic religion) but it is hardly Darwin's fault if he did. My own view, frequently expressed (for example in the The Selfish Gene and especially in the title chapter of A Devil's Chaplain) is that there are two reasons why we need to take Darwinian natural selection seriously. Firstly, it is the most important element in the explanation for our own existence and that of all life. Secondly, natural selection is a good object lesson in how NOT to organize a society. As I have often said before, as a scientist I am a passionate Darwinian. But as a citizen and a human being, I want to construct a society which is about as un-Darwinian as we can make it. I approve of looking after the poor (very un-Darwinian). I approve of universal medical care (very un-Darwinian). It is one of the classic philosophical fallacies to derive an 'ought' from an 'is'. Stein (or whoever wrote his script for him) is implying that Hitler committed that fallacy with respect to Darwinism. If we look at more recent history, the closest representatives you'll find to Darwinian politics are uncompassionate conservatives like Margaret Thatcher, George W Bush, or Ben Stein's own hero, Richard Nixon. Maybe all these people, along with the Social Darwinists from Herbert Spencer to John D Rockefeller, committed the is/ought fallacy and justified their unpleasant social views by invoking garbled Darwinism. Anyone who thinks that has any bearing whatsoever on the truth or falsity of Darwin's theory of evolution is either an unreasoning fool or a cynical manipulator of unreasoning fools. I will not speculate as to which category includes Ben Stein and Mark Mathis.
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