Parecon : Participtory Economics

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:53 am

Ahhh, the socialists ran off.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:12 am

They tend to do that--just like creationists.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:26 am

Funny how they always do that after getting their asses kicked.

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 68

First I’m not a socialist or a capitalist I have my own economic system Fcom and it’s a Syncretic idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncretic_politics so don’t label my a capitalist or a communist in short I have a combination of extreme capitalism and communism in on ideology and south ideas tend to be of the “WTF dude” or “Seriously WTF dude” category.

OK I have established that I don’t fit in your limited boxes in your libertarian worldview or WTF you are my capitalist or anarchist. I’m a economy student and I have red this thread and the capitalists have made one lie after a another contradicting economics , physics and mathematics . In my book your arguments are made up bull shit until you present a observation and/or calculation and/or a simulation. Since the retardation level of our capitalist friends are so great and they don’t site sources (just like creationist XD ) and have their dogma of supermagic (just like creationists Very Happy

) I have taken some time to ridicule them.

First of the clams that every person can afford a security firm is absurd and just a naked assertion like that the earth is flat. Let me make some training for my studies and show you some sources firs I live in Poland so I use the same statistic institute I’m required to use for my works GUS (Główny Urząd Statystyczny ) don’t worry they have a English translation next to the Polish so you can follow .

The average income :

employees 10585 PLN (2 PLN = 1 USD)

farmers 5402

selfemployed 11466

retirees 10234

pensioners 7258

living on 4847
unearned
sources

Source http://www.stat.gov.pl/cps/rde/xbcr/gus/PUBL_Dochody_warynki_zycia_ludnosci_polski.pdf
Page 65.

Lets now take a offer of a security firm

http://www.agencja-daro.pl/cennik,agencji,daro.php

Protection of persons (Ochrona osób) personal protection (Ochrona osobista) costs from 20PLN / H so you pay 24*20*30 =14400 PLN monthly so like I have demonstrated more the 50% of the population cant afford protection and get their shit stolen in a free market. Can you counter my argument mr "I have super magic of god I mean free market on my side "?

For translation use http://poltran.com/ if you don’t believe.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:08 am

What argument? All you have is a bunch of assertions without any backing whatsoever and assumptions based upon skewed data.

So take your nonsense and shove it back up your ass.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 513

Quote:

(2 PLN = 1 USD)

Don't you guys use the Euro now?

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 68

Cygnus wrote:

Quote:

(2 PLN = 1 USD)

Don't you guys use the Euro now?

NO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zloty

Besides isn’t it strange that a polish firm would use the PLN for calculation of prices if they didn’t use the PLN ? It would be like using the germen mark that got replaced via Euro ? Please see the link and you see that the security firm uses PLN= zloty= złoty .

to Knight :
maybe if He stops behaving like a 12 yare old creationist and keeps claming that mathematics is a assertion then I will Maybe give his stupidity some attention. Besides he is parading himself and his position not that a decent demonstration of anarcho capitalism teleports you back to the stone age buy it’s a waist of time to talk to a retard . Until then I let the stupidity of Knight ridicule himself In a way that I could never achieve. Go Knight Make a bigger idiot out of yourself amuse me my monkey dance my puppet dance.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:41 am

carx wrote:

to Knight :

*snips a bunch of butthurt crying*

Back your assertions, 12 year-old creationist assclown.

Dance, my little turd!

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 513

Quote:

NO

Really? Not at all? But you guys are in the E.U. GB still uses pounds, but they use euros as well.

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 68

Cygnus wrote:

Quote:

NO

Really? Not at all? But you guys are in the E.U. GB still uses pounds, but they use euros as well.

1. Use basic logic

carx wrote:

Besides isn’t it strange that a polish firm would use the PLN for calculation of prices if they didn’t use the PLN ? It would be like using the germen mark that got replaced via Euro ? Please see the link and you see that the security firm uses PLN= zloty= złoty .
.

carx wrote:

Besides isn’t it strange that a polish firm would use the PLN for calculation of prices if they didn’t use the PLN ? It would be like using the germen mark that got replaced via Euro ? Please see the link and you see that the security firm uses PLN= zloty= złoty .
.

carx wrote:

Besides isn’t it strange that a polish firm would use the PLN for calculation of prices if they didn’t use the PLN ? It would be like using the germen mark that got replaced via Euro ? Please see the link and you see that the security firm uses PLN= zloty= złoty .
.

2. See the evidence
zł stands for zloty
Remember there is no Euro sine there so we are not using the euro based on your observation.

http://www.agencja-daro.pl/cennik,agencji,daro.php

http://firma-przemysl.listings.ebay.pl/Budownictwo_Artyku-y-elektryczne_W0QQfromZR4QQsacatZ50200QQsocmdZListingItemList

http://firma-przemysl.listings.ebay.pl/Oferty-hurtowe-i-wyprzeda-e_AGD_W0QQfromZR4QQsacatZ68503QQsocmdZListingItemList

3. there are requirements for introducing the euro you can read them if you wont to educate yourself .

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Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:

Back your assertions

Taken from :

http://www.infidelguy.com/ftopic-282-0.html

Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:

carx wrote:

3) Fusion and fission you can make gold out of air water or dirt using fusion or turn led into gold removing some protons and electrons.

Hey dipshit: alchemy is the stuff of legends.

Contrast with a creationist debunking video :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=istxUVBZD2s&feature=related

Conclusion fusion/chemical_evolution doesn’t exist is a clime made , creationists are making this clime you are a creationist or retarded/uneducated in atomic theory and you contradicted the age of the earth via assuming that the fusion is not powering the sun and we have a young solar system congratulations you are a creationist. Besides where did the chemicals come from if not from fusion of lighter elements and that included gold ! Or are you suggesting the magic man put the gold already intelligently created ?

You are not going to address this and ramble around go ahead every forum needs a viler idiot to amuse the people. Besides nothing proves my point more than you singing “LALALA I cant see the evidence you are a evil evolutionist bozo”.

Graduate Thinker Joined: Mar 26, 2008 Posts: 513

Quote:

1. Use basic logic

I did, with what knowlege I had. "Couldn't firms still use the PLN instead of the Euro if the Euro was only being introduced partially?" was what I as implying. However, you have told me that the zloty is the only form of currency in Poland.

By the way, those Polish pages are impossible for me to read.

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 68

Cygnus wrote:

Quote:

1. Use basic logic

I did, with what knowlege I had. "Couldn't firms still use the PLN instead of the Euro if the Euro was only being introduced partially?" was what I as implying. However, you have told me that the zloty is the only form of currency in Poland.

By the way, those Polish pages are impossible for me to read.

I know that’s why I gave a translator and pointed that you try to find the euro symbols in there (a sign of a dual currency ) if there is no euro symbols you can deduce that Poland don’t have euros.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:41 am

carx wrote:

3) Fusion and fission you can make gold out of air water or dirt using fusion or turn led into gold removing some protons and electrons.

Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:

Hey dipshit: alchemy is the stuff of legends.

carx wrote:

Contrast with a creationist debunking video

Why does anyone bother doing that? It's like debunking phrenology.

Are you just here to be the fool?

Confident Learner Joined: Jun 09, 2008 Posts: 68

Quote:

Are you just here to be the fool

Seriously grab a book and get educated if you are to lazy to even watch a video showing a creationist getting owned and making your exact arguments then go parade you have disproved cosmology , the big bang and most of science be happy .

Next I’m going to get this discussion rolling starting to argue with my self Razz

. My rezoning is not dogma based and I admit a error if I make one.

ME : According to the statistic data 70% of pols cant afford a security firm I have demonstrated this mathematically.

ME2: True however this ignores the fact that the individuals can get together in grupes and buy a protection service together.

ME: Interesting however the need for such group would complicate things like moving into a new area would require to sink with a payment cycle of a group negotiate the entering in a group. What are the implied consequences of this model ? I must agree this resolves my first point if we are talking about groups


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