Should we side with Moderate Muslims against the Extremists?

Just Arrived Joined: Apr 12, 2008 Posts: 3

MockingGods wrote:

IOWs, "taking sides" is the problem.

Agreed. And we can't just lump people into these categories as if they all believe the same things.

Sure, all of my Muslim friends (most of my friends are Muslims BTW) are moderate (or I guess you could say "Reformed") but even between them there are disagreements.

So taking sides as if things were just black and white isn't the thing to do.

And these 'extremists' we hear about on the news that fly planes into buildings and what have you are also pick and choose... they claim to be following the Quran yet they'll go out to a strip club and have girlfriends... seems moderate in that area of their lives! lol

People can't be seperated into neat little goups and I think it's dangerous to even try.

Newbie Joined: Jun 16, 2008 Posts: 13

My opinion: No. I will not pretend to believe something that I know is not true. Period.

The Learned Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 122

No because they are excellent liars and even the so called moderates practice oppression to women and other values considered despicable in any other culture. Their beliefs are a poison that any given time goes from mild to extreme with no in-between. History has shown that trend over and over again. Their belief is an infestation that tears the culture apart everywhere they infect. Witness Europe and even Canada for proof of that. What 9/11 proved was just how good they are at blending into society and acting one way until the time comes to accomplish their evil deed.

Yes, it is a similar fear that led to the Japanese interment camps and I'm not advocating that but we must be wary of these lieing tactics.

Make no mistake, this is an economic AND religious culture war. And do not forget what Democrats tend to forget: that even their hero Billy Clinton bombed Saddam a number of times because the first Gulf War was technically not over as long as Saddam continued to defy the UN mandates. IOW, this war would have started even had Gore won instead of Bush. How it would have been waged may have varied however, (troop numbers, tactics, etc...) but that's an unknown variable.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:26 pm

Lola wrote:

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Sure, all of my Muslim friends (most of my friends are Muslims BTW) are moderate (or I guess you could say "Reformed") but even between them there are disagreements.

Think that those "moderate" muslims friends would be on your side if it came to a war between Islam and the kuffar? Could you trust them next to you with guns and live ammo? Would you risk your life on a hunch that they are loyal to the kuffar and not Allah? If so, then they are no longer Muslims but apostates.
Ask your Muslim friends to explain Quran 5:51

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And these 'extremists' we hear about on the news that fly planes into buildings and what have you are also pick and choose... they claim to be following the Quran yet they'll go out to a strip club and have girlfriends... seems moderate in that area of their lives! lol

It was a necessary "disguise" to convince the authorities that they are "moderates". Another form of taqiyya.

A "moderate" Muslim is no Muslim at all in the eyes of True Muslims TM .

Islam is not moderate. It is full of hatred and enmity against the non Muslim world.
A Muslim may appear moderate for tactical purposes, until he is strong enough in numbers and in power to engage in the eternal fight against the unbelievers in the cause of Allah.

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