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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why can't you see how pointless you're being? You might as well ask people if parking lots are unnecessary on the moon and proceed to show them a catalog of various parking spaces when they tell you they don't need a parking lot on the flippin' moon.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You are welcome, CoBW. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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baddogma wrote:
IS THIS GUY DENSE OR WHAT? Rolling Eyes



Let's see:

Main Entry: dense
Pronunciation: 'den(t)s
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): dens·er; dens·est
Etymology: Latin densus; akin to Greek dasys thick with hair or leaves
1 a : marked by compactness or crowding together of parts <dense> <dense> b : having a high mass per unit volume <carbon>
2 a : slow to understand : STUPID, THICKHEADED <was> b : EXTREME <dense>
3 : having between any two elements at least one element <the>
4 : demanding concentration to follow or comprehend <dense>
5 : having high or relatively high opacity <a> <a>
synonym see STUPID
- dense·ly adverb
- dense·ness /'den(t)-sn&s/ noun

Source: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/dense

None of those definitions fit me.


2a
shall we vote on it?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:
zxcvcxz wrote:


And what is the Bible if not a series of statements by itself?


First of all when you say Bible let's understand what you mean. Are we talking about the translation, or the Aramic/ Hebrew and Greek that these books originally came in. When we get into the originally languages we go into something way deeper than what we see in the kJV bible.


In what way does reverting to original language make the bible deeper?

Translating the Bible has given believers the opportunity of making the Bible better than it is. If anything, then, reverting to original language makes the glaring errors, the examples of primitive ignorance, the blatant contradicitions even worse than in translation because there is no longer any appologetic buffer between what the bible actually says and what translators want it to say.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

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In what way does reverting to original language make the bible deeper?

Translating the Bible has given believers the opportunity of making the Bible better than it is. If anything, then, reverting to original language makes the glaring errors, the examples of primitive ignorance, the blatant contradicitions even worse than in translation because there is no longer any appologetic buffer between what the bible actually says and what translators want it to say.



BINGO!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:
zxcvcxz wrote:


And what is the Bible if not a series of statements by itself?


First of all when you say Bible let's understand what you mean. Are we talking about the translation, or the Aramic/ Hebrew and Greek that these books originally came in. When we get into the originally languages we go into something way deeper than what we see in the kJV bible.


1) You didn't answer the question.

2) Yea we definitely get into something deeper. Unfortunately it is brown and smells like the local universities scatology department.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

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In what way does reverting to original language make the bible deeper?

Translating the Bible has given believers the opportunity of making the Bible better than it is. If anything, then, reverting to original language makes the glaring errors, the examples of primitive ignorance, the blatant contradicitions even worse than in translation because there is no longer any appologetic buffer between what the bible actually says and what translators want it to say.



BINGO!
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Thanks man. And I agree that KY is one of the great inventions of man.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

zxcvcxz wrote:
And what is the Bible if not a series of statements by itself?


I never said the Bible was not statements. The Bible is so called explainations created by primitive man. Like Ezeki'El's vision of the wheel. Some of us now know these are so called spaceships. There is allegory in the Bible and then explainations based upon the minds of primitive people.

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:

First of all when you say Bible let's understand what you mean. Are we talking about the translation, or the Aramic/ Hebrew and Greek that these books originally came in. When we get into the originally languages we go into something way deeper than what we see in the kJV bible.


Leszek wrote:

1) You didn't answer the question.

2) Yea we definitely get into something deeper. Unfortunately it is brown and smells like the local universities scatology department.


I just answered it above then. I realize I didn't initially answer it.

You insults are a result of having no moral value. I can't say this is due to atheism because some atheists are morally sound. You, on the other hand, have no morals. Like I've said before: children read these posts in forums. Yet you want to be ignorant and insult me like most of your friends. That's cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

Centerofbaptistworship,

Please back up your belief in aliens.

Also, who or what caused alien life? More aliens? Infinite regression anyone?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:
zxcvcxz wrote:
And what is the Bible if not a series of statements by itself?


I never said the Bible was not statements. The Bible is so called explainations created by primitive man. Like Ezeki'El's vision of the wheel. Some of us now know these are so called spaceships. There is allegory in the Bible and then explainations based upon the minds of primitive people.

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:

First of all when you say Bible let's understand what you mean. Are we talking about the translation, or the Aramic/ Hebrew and Greek that these books originally came in. When we get into the originally languages we go into something way deeper than what we see in the kJV bible.


Leszek wrote:

1) You didn't answer the question.

2) Yea we definitely get into something deeper. Unfortunately it is brown and smells like the local universities scatology department.


I just answered it above then. I realize I didn't initially answer it.

You insults are a result of having no moral value. I can't say this is due to atheism because some atheists are morally sound. You, on the other hand, have no morals. Like I've said before: children read these posts in forums. Yet you want to be ignorant and insult me like most of your friends. That's cool.


I didn't insult you. I insulted the Bible. Go back and look. I am not the one who is saying your are dense.

You on the other hand just went ahead and insulted me with your "You, on the other hand, have no morals."

I have said nothing I wouldn't say in front of children. This board has some swearing and general adult language. I don't take part in that. Any kid who would get the joke I used above would be mature enough (or at least old enough) so that it wouldn't make a difference.

So I would appreciate an apology.

Now back to the topic at hand.

The Bible is just statements. There is no evidence, just words. Yes there are some verses that could be stretched to mean spaceships. However this hypothesis isn't falsifiable and therefore to be taken cautiously at best. Even so...

No one denies there is some truth to the Bible, for example Rome really existed and it is mentioned in the bible. But when it comes to claims, the bible is all talk and no evidence. The whole book is one big naked assertion after another.

Thus if the bible says I have to go to worship God, I don't care.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

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I just answered it above then. I realize I didn't initially answer it.


We are used to it, you fail to answer most posts and that is why we are frustrated with you.
Debating you is like debating with graffiti.


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You insults are a result of having no moral value.


Words are words. Please back up your assertion. How is a "bad" word immoral?


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children read these posts in forums.


Oh come on, how many children would follow threads like this anyway.
You piss and moan about words because you fail to have an intelligent rebuttal to anyone here.


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Yet you want to be ignorant and insult me like most of your friends. That's cool.


Hey if the shoe fits wear it. I call you dense as an observation, not an insult. Prove me wrong, but I think every one here would agree with me due to your post and run tactics. You fail to address anyone's responses and fail to intelligently back up your naked assertions.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

Baddogma.

Just in case, you should know that I didn't mean to imply that I disapprove of you calling him dense. I was merely expressing my sense of irony that he went after me.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

Aspasmos (Greetings),

I have given clear evidence of my claims. Since I do not, and cannot, accept evolution on all levels as true there has to be a better explaination. That is what led me to this. No one has to accept it. I do know that Theos (which is mistranslated into God) are beings that we are and that have come here to create us. And to answer someone elses question my theory is that Theos (so called aliens) came here to put specific things in place so that what we had then and what we have now is here. I am arguing against FULL FLEDGED evolutionary theory. There is (I must admit) some cases wherein evolution is indeed true. Like someone said that we are evolving now. Yet the idea of one species becoming another one makes no logical sense. Why are people attacking me for a logical explaination of biblical scripture? I don't get it. Why throw the baby out with the bath water? Here I am admitting errors.

Point here is that we as humans are not going to be anything other than humans (anthropos).

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/words.pl?book=Jam&chapter=2&verse=24&strongs=444&page=

As humans we are indeed Theos too though.

Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Jhn&chapter=10&verse=34&version=KJV#34

It seems I am having a problem here showing you that the KJV has translation errors. We have new evidence of what specific words mean now. The translators of the scriptures only had limited resources available in their translation. Also a lot of them were pagan and believed in ghosts. I do not believe in the non-seen spiritual realm. That's not a reality. Do you follow?

I mean look in a bible concordance and see if there are logical definitions for words verses illogical. That is what I'm doing here. I cannot fully take credit for this theory of us being Theos and then Theos being other beings who came to this planet either. Go to this link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8295965103988149968&q=true+islam

The true Bible is in the original languages, as the brother here on this video will point out. I do not agree with his religion 100%. However I did get part of my theories from him and others and it is backed up by evidence in the Bible. So rather than insulting me and getting mad please get a understanding of what I believe and do not believe. I understand most of you only see science as absolute. However I see this absolute science in Greek and in Aramic Hebrew of the scriptures.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

Do you ever read responses from other people?

-We don't care about the bible, whatever the translation/version/interpretation.
Though your alien hypothesis is interesting you have no provided any proof that doesn't involve translating the bible in the "true" way.
-No one takes science as absolute. That was explained to your other persona.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

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Just in case, you should know that I didn't mean to imply that I disapprove of you calling him dense. I was merely expressing my sense of irony that he went after me.


I was surprised too, I might be on ignore for calling him dense.

He can't stand toe to toe with anyone rational in here.
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