Is Worship Totally unnecessary

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:06 pm

Mr_Christian wrote:

I smell a sock puppet.

Bonus: Every time he sets up a profile, he creates a new Yahoo email address to match. Yinepu and Baptist are in Ohio, and we all know that Yinepu and Nation are the same guy b/c he told us so.

So.... WTF dude? What's with the 3 profiles? One to match each personality?

I only have one personality. I'm a Baptist preacher. Each of those screen names has to do with an idea I had for a possible church. The previous two have been scratched as ideas. Also my position on the bible being fake and false is herein being taken back.

I'm an associate minister of a baptist church here in Toledo, Ohio. I have the goal of having my own church in the future. That is what the screen names are about.

But believe what you will. And I know the insults are coming, but that's okay because you all have been insulting me anyway.

The Learned Joined: Jun 08, 2006 Posts: 104

Hello, Ohio. I hope you don't mind me buttin' in but.. what is it that you want to accomplish here? With all the screen names and these strange challenges you seem kind of random and unstable..

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:22 pm

zxcvcxz wrote:

Hello, Ohio. I hope you don't mind me buttin' in but.. what is it that you want to accomplish here? With all the screen names and these strange challenges you seem kind of random and unstable..

Well I'm not unstable, but I guess I'll just stay away since you all think that.

Thinker Joined: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 423

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:

Again God does not need anything.

Psalm 50:9-12

v. 9 I will take no bullock out of thy house, [nor] he goats out of thy folds.

v. 10 For every beast of the forest [is] Mine, [and] the cattle upon a thousand hills.

v. 11 I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field [are] Mine.

v. 12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world [is] Mine, and the fulness thereof.

Than it is totally worthless to worship god and thus totally unnecessary. In other words Christians are wasting their lives in doing this for nothing.

Thinker Joined: Nov 12, 2006 Posts: 423

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:

Well I'm not unstable, but I guess I'll just stay away since you all think that.

Yet another post and run fundie.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:10 am

Of course worship is useless, but so is art. But uselessness does not necessarily drain one of desire for the activity.

Worship in the usual religious sense, though, is, to my view, an example of self-hatred. I will never understand the desire to debase onesself before another being even if it is more powerful.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:34 am

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:

zxcvcxz wrote:

Hello, Ohio. I hope you don't mind me buttin' in but.. what is it that you want to accomplish here? With all the screen names and these strange challenges you seem kind of random and unstable..

Well I'm not unstable, but I guess I'll just stay away since you all think that.

First of all, zxcvcxz wasn't insulting you, he was making an observation. From his point of view it DOES seem unstable. If you would like to explain yourself, feel free, but he is free to have his opinion that you seem "kind of random and unstable". In my opinion, threatening to "stay away since you all think that" is sort of prissy, but again, that's just my opinion.

Allow me to hold up a mirror for you:
1. You came in with one screen name and claimed we were all God and that nobody could read the bible correctly except for you. You got owned in that debate, btw.
2. Then you decided to punt the whole thing and sarcastically "worship" Anubis. That lasted a couple of days.
3. NOW you come back and claim to be a baptist preacher again and want to debate worship with a bunch of atheists.
4. And then you get offended when somebody makes the observation that it seems "kind of random and unstable". Do you see how someone might think that?

And speaking of worship, I think one of your other personalities put it best:

You wrote:

I am against external worship of a non-seen spook/ spirit.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:51 am

same guy, different sock puppet, same ol' shit.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:03 am

Kickin' ass and takin names, Moloth Wink

Grand Poster Joined: Jan 28, 2006 Posts: 2274

Mr_Christian wrote:

2. Then you decided to punt the whole thing and sarcastically "worship" Anubis. That lasted a couple of days.

WHAT?

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:38 am

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP wrote:

Again God does not need anything.

Psalm 50:9-12

v. 9 I will take no bullock out of thy house, [nor] he goats out of thy folds.

v. 10 For every beast of the forest [is] Mine, [and] the cattle upon a thousand hills.

v. 11 I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field [are] Mine.

v. 12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world [is] Mine, and the fulness thereof.

sjc wrote:

Than it is totally worthless to worship god and thus totally unnecessary. In other words Christians are wasting their lives in doing this for nothing.

No Christians are not wasting their lives in worship of Elohiym (who you and others call "God"). You, even if you don't know this, still worship. Let me help you with that:

Psalm 45:11

So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he [is] thy Lord; and worship thou him.

The Aramic Hebrew word for "Worship" is: Shachah (Strong's # 7812). This word means: To bow down, prostrate oneself, reverence, obeisance.

Because we live in America we bow down to the constitution (thus we bow down to it's founders in reverence).

The problem with the Atheist, and Agnostic is that you have a spookism mindset when it comes to who you call "God". However the so called "God" of the Bible has a body:

Psalm 75:8
For in the hand of the LORD [there is] a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring [them] out, [and] drink [them].

What!!!!? In Yah's (the so called God's) hand there is a cup? This cup has red wine in it. He literally pours it out. How in the hell can this be allegory? This is a literal statement.

Exodus 33:21-23

v. 21 And Yahovah said, Behold, [there is] a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:

v. 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

v. 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Now here the so called "God" has back parts, hands, and a face.

Deuteronomy 23:14

For Yahovah thy Elohiym walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.

How can a spirit walk in the midst of some one's camp without legs, and feet? He can't walk without legs and feet. So Yah Elohiym has legs and feet too.

I could go on, but I'll stop right there.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:43 am

Hello and welcome, Baptist Worship. Smile

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:48 am

SvZurich wrote:

Hello and welcome, Baptist Worship. Smile

Thanks for the none judgemental "welcome". I appreciate it.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:45 am

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP,

Help me understand. You're demonstrating that we worship by demonstrating that God has a body? Would you please connect these dots for me?

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:50 am

Mr_C wrote:

CENTEROFBAPTISTWORSHIP,

Help me understand. You're demonstrating that we worship by demonstrating that God has a body? Would you please connect these dots for me?

What exactly don't you get? Yah Elohiym (Theos in the New Testament) has a body, thus man is worshipping that which he and she can see. Elohiym are those beings high above. That's how the word "Elohiym" translates. Elohiym are beings in this world and outside of this world. We are both worshipping ourselves as Elohiym (refer to Exodus 7:1, John 10:34) and beings who come to this planet as Yah Elohiym (what some called Aliens, extraterrestials).

Do you follow? I mean what do you not get?


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