plase provide some info to me!

Just Arrived Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 5

I was bought up as a Christian, but didnt find any difficulty to pull out from that.

But now I have a read a lot of books and web sites about a 'intervention theory' (So they say about that)

We humans were simple monkeys and had no sound box or complex intelligence- so some aliens cloned us in garden of eden and those masters still control humanity etc.

Religion I can easily recognized as exploitation. but these authors somehow influence me and I began doubting weather it is a possibility.
Also what about UFOs?

In atheist circles I haven't so far seen any mention about them.

Please provide some links or your opinion in that.

Newbie First Class Joined: Sep 08, 2009 Posts: 44

Hi Roy,

Although I have never heard of this "intervention theory" in my humble opinion, we must scrutinize any theory using the standards of critical thinking (i.e. clarity, accuracy, precision, logic, etc.) and maybe even sometimes the scientific method. From the little that you have shared here, it makes me skeptical that they use the "Garden of Eden" as a starting point. And also, as often asked of the intentions of a God, what were these aliens' purpose/motivation? Experimentation? Boredom? It often seems that theories such as this one offer an answer to OUR dire curiosity only of where we come from. From the aliens' perspective, it hardly makes sense. Travel thousands of light years just to "advance" a species of monkeys? As mentioned earlier, I have not done any research on this theory but where does it leave the extensive evidence that we have acquired regarding evolution? Evolution is not only a theory involving apes, but ALL living things on this planet. Does intervention theory address this as well?

Best,
Val

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:58 pm

Anunaki, if you saw that christianity was bunk, how on earth did you ever for even a moment, give any credence to this intervention theory? There is no real evidence that aliens mated with ancient animals and the bi-product was man.... no evidence whatsoever. By the way..... UFO does not automagically mean alien spacecraft, it means it is an unidentified flying object, nothing more.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:15 pm

Wrinkles wrote:

Anunaki, if you saw that christianity was bunk, how on earth did you ever for even a moment, give any credence to this intervention theory? There is no real evidence that aliens mated with ancient animals and the bi-product was man.... no evidence whatsoever. By the way..... UFO does not automagically mean alien spacecraft, it means it is an unidentified flying object, nothing more.

BS theories somehow end up in a different category.

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:55 pm

Annunaki, judging by your handle you seem to have swapped one belief system for another.

I really admire the GALL of those who can take ancient Sumerian mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunaki) and weave it into a science-fiction-as-real-life/mythos and reconstruct our ancient past (of course aliens built the Pyramids... sheesh!!) creating a new mythology for the New Age (and those who have recently left the established religions)... all in the name of book sales at the nearest esoteric or theosophical bookshop [and now online - better yet! work from home people, avoid paying royalties to the materialist scumbages!!] - allowing a select few to live out their fantasy of 'Living a Pure and Spiritual Life' (either that, or Naturopathy, Mediumship, Reiki, Colonic Irrigation Smile

Healing Magnets, Prayer Handkerchiefs... you name it baby!)

Chariots of the Gods was HUGE in the 1970's (so was Pyramid Power)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

A whole MESS of 'channeled' material is on the 'toobs (Google; Nidle, Galactic Federation) they're coming back to save us people!! (sound familiar?)

The Raelians are another good example.

Basically, also consider how did some crackpot author come up with such a world-shaking theory ALL BY HIMSELF (and gets just enough publicity to sell a truckload of books to the gullible public) and then... where's the Nobel? The igNobel?

For the real story just read 2001 a Space Odyssey by Arthur C Clarke!! ('the monolith') - and see where these overactive imaginations got some of their inspiration. [OK, OK, I get the whole 'Starchild' concept and to me it's a metaphorical stance as to the evolutionary position of the species in the face of the vast multi-cosmos-verse yada yada)

Another great example is Richard Hoagland (the Face on Mars / Cydonia) and also the Crop Circle devotees (real story, see circlemakers.org >> they are ART WORKS by humans not aliens.

Another rabbithole to waste a few years, go for it, at least it'll be character forming.

BUT - there's more. Our minds/brains work associatively and there are lots of things placed there culturally before we have a chance to defend ourselves mentally. These things are 'hooks' into our deeper cognitive processes.

e.g. Co-opting the Genesis narrative to give an alternate explanation for the apparent discontinuity (the missing link) between humans and apes. [DNA evidence is in people, we have sequenced the genome of humans and chimps, it wasn't aliens...]

e.g. the 'architype' of the saviour(s) from another (higher) place (usually to save us from an apocalypse of some sort or another)

Apocalypse How?
* Rogue Planet (planet X)
* Alien Attack (by the other aliens of course)
* Comet, gamma ray burst...
* Nebula ring around the Pleiades - will fry the planet (by ~~1999~~, ~~2000~~, ~~2004~~, 2013 ah... any time soon)
* Mutant Star Goat (my favourite)

Back to Von Danniken, maybe you haven't heard of him (I remember watching 'Chariots of the God's' on TV as a kid - in the stone ages) BUT he's on the gravy train for LIFE;

wiki wrote:

The general public, however, has sometimes been more responsive. Däniken's books have been translated into 32 languages, with a gross book sales of 62 million copies worldwide , and his documentary TV-shows have been viewed in Germany, the United States, and other countries. His influence can also be seen in science fiction, the New Age culture and some modern religions like Scientology.

ADDENDUM - this is the fictional Annunaki (the 'fallen angels')

wiki wrote:

Demon: The Fallen is a role-playing game and a fictional setting from the World of Darkness line by White Wolf Game Studio. The player characters in the game are fallen angels, who were cast out of paradise after a thousand year war with God.

sounds familiar?

Just Arrived Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 5

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Annunaki, judging by your handle you seem to have swapped one belief system for another.

That seems a fact!

Thanks form the update. Let me travel through these links.

The complexity of human brain, ancient structures and many advanced technology now said to be existing but not reveled etc are the points that confuse me, but may be because of my lack of investigation into the scientific aspects.

Thanks for the insights- let me go though them.

But I always wonder- all of us had a lot of work to do to survive, but why do we worry or forced to inquire about these things by our inner part?
What is that part in us? Is it soul?(Not religious sole, but what is it?)

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:43 am

Anunaki wrote:

But I always wonder- all of us had a lot of work to do to survive, but why do we worry or forced to inquire about these things by our inner part?
What is that part in us? Is it soul?(Not religious sole, but what is it?)

Good luck with the digging! Take an open mind (not too open) and a healthy dose of critical thinking and skepticism.

Not claiming that I have all the answers BUT responding to your question (which would be something we have all asked at some point in our lives) what is it in our make-up that makes us believe in the supernatural?

Some would say it's in the genes... some would say it's the god-spot in our brains... I would say it's partly nature (genes) and partly nurture (culture etc.) - most people would say that the world looks designed and therefore there is something 'out there' - - - - > > Confused

BTW - speculating about aliens having mucked with our DNA (it would have had to be millions of years ago) creates so many new questions. Who what where when. It just moves the object of worship to the aliens IMO.

Try 'The Demon Haunted World' by Carl Sagan, I hear it's a good intro.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan#Sagan_and_UFOs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World

Just Arrived Joined: Jan 17, 2010 Posts: 5

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Try 'The Demon Haunted World' by Carl Sagan, I hear it's a good intro.

Downloading audio version- have total 2 hour journey daily- which is for Audio books

Thanks


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