Supernatural?

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:04 am

kmisho wrote:

gmankbadi,

I will bow out now, and for some time to come, to give you time to adjust your way of thinking. And remember, simplify your terms. It will help you to avoid confusing yourself so much! Smile

Well, he confuses me a hell of a lot! Shocked

Newbie Joined: Nov 28, 2006 Posts: 21 Location: USA

sherlock_homeboy wrote:

I usted to be christian and i experienced all kind of weird stuff. I know they can be just imagination, but here are few things i just can't explain:

1) I had this computergame called "Black Mirror". There's some occultism in the end of the game, and God warned me about the game. It happened when the priest of my church prayed for me. He got this vision that i was playing a computergame that was unorthodox. I didn't even know that there was occultism in the end of that game. And i never told anyone that i had that game, or that i was playing computergame of any kind, because i don't usually play any computergames, and my friends know that. So how could a normal man like my priest know that i was playing that game, when nobody knew it. And if you try to say that he can read my mind (which sounds stupid), i definitely didn't think about that game by the time he prayed for me.

2) My friend's sister said that "God doesn't exist", and right away their medicine cabinet flew across the room and fell to the floor. COINCIDENCE?

3) My friend HAD coeliac disease. And there is no cure for coeliac. It was healed when a priest prayed for her. And by that time, she didn't even believe in God. So you can't say that she was healed because she believed that she will be healed.

I know it's hard to belive in these kind of stories, but i swear all this really happended. So PLEASE try to give an reasonable explanation to these "miracles" (if you can)

And sorry about my bad english.

1)Do you think someone close to you sensed you were preoccupied with this game, and voiced their concern to your priest?

2)Do you actually have footage of this? How many witnessed this and how credible are they? I'm not buying this one.....

3)Maybe she was misdiagnosed. Or maybe the disease went into remmission, or maybe your friend just stopped eating wheat and got better....

The burden of proof is upon you to provide evidence that these most unusual events occured as you described, miraculous or not.....

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:53 pm

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But i don't understand you atheists either. Don't you have something better to do? If somebody decides to believe in God, SO WHAT?! It's not your bisness.

Its none of my business that this nation is creeping towards a theocracy?
It's none of my business that an atheist can never hold a government position?
It's none of my business when I have loved ones that are so superstitious that they would go to a faith healer over a Doctor?
It's none of my business that the leader of this country, and the most powerful person on the face of the planet decides to go to war because GOD told him to?
It's none of my business that "in god we trust" is on the currency?
It is none of my business that stem cell research is voted down due to belief in a non existent soul?
It is none of my business that over 80% of this nation want no seperation of church and state?
It is none of my business that 45%+ of this nation want Creationism taught in public schools exclusively?
It is none of my business that I served in the Marine corps and was FORCED to attend religious services?
It is none of my business that every day I am affected by the irrational beliefs and religious dogma of others?
It is none of my business that fundamentalists want me dead, and You dead because their ancient book tells them infadels must be killed?
It is none of my business that Religious idiots want to force their beliefs on others?

You wonder why I am angry? in a Nation that puts atheists as the LEAST trusted members of society when statistically they are less likely to break the law than Christians?

All my life I have been shuned and disrespected for my non belief in their imaginary friend.

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And why do you have to talk about God at all if he doesn't exist? You have all these forums where you're trying to prove that God doesn't exist. Who cares?! I don't care if millions believe in it. Now when i too think there's no God, i just leave it all behind.

All it takes to perpetuate ignorance is to remain silent. By speaking up you are out of the closet and in their face. To unite is the only way we will ever have a voice.

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I have better things to do and discuss in life than non-existing God. Get a hobby or something.

Then get the hell out of here. I have many many hobbies, thank you.

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And now i suppose that you ask me why i needed some stupid religion. But past is past. I got over it, and you should get over with your overanxious atheism. After all, i'm just a kid and many of you are probably adults. I'm not talking about atheists in general, i'm talking about fundamentalists. Especially you baddogma.

Maybe when you have some life experience you can criticize me. Untill then you are just a whiney, ignorent child to me.

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You sound pretty mad in your every message.

I have reason to be angry.

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Why don't you just laught about the whole thing and leave it be. There's no reason to get mad if somebody's superstitious. Just live your lifes and forget that no-one ever even said that there might be a God.

Religion is not a laughing matter. Have you ever watched the news? I can laugh it off when they stop pushing their belief on others.

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You're just trying to prove that you don't believe in God because you want everybody to know how smart and realistic you are. Maybe you are smart, but really, NOBODY CARES!

Really?, is that why there is a forum here talking about it? If you don't care leave. No one is forcing you to come here.

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If you really are smart, you think of something better to talk about. Besides, where i live, most of the hillbillys don't believe in God either.

I talk about other topics on other forums. This is a forum for religious debate.

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p.s. no offense (and thanks for the answers)

none taken

Confident Learner Joined: Apr 29, 2006 Posts: 99

sherlock_homeboy wrote:

I usted to be christian and i experienced all kind of weird stuff. I know they can be just imagination, but here are few things i just can't explain:

1) I had this computergame called "Black Mirror". There's some occultism in the end of the game, and God warned me about the game. It happened when the priest of my church prayed for me. He got this vision that i was playing a computergame that was unorthodox. I didn't even know that there was occultism in the end of that game. And i never told anyone that i had that game, or that i was playing computergame of any kind, because i don't usually play any computergames, and my friends know that. So how could a normal man like my priest know that i was playing that game, when nobody knew it. And if you try to say that he can read my mind (which sounds stupid), i definitely didn't think about that game by the time he prayed for me.

2) My friend's sister said that "God doesn't exist", and right away their medicine cabinet flew across the room and fell to the floor. COINCIDENCE?

3) My friend HAD coeliac disease. And there is no cure for coeliac. It was healed when a priest prayed for her. And by that time, she didn't even believe in God. So you can't say that she was healed because she believed that she will be healed.

I know it's hard to belive in these kind of stories, but i swear all this really happended. So PLEASE try to give an reasonable explanation to these "miracles" (if you can)

And sorry about my bad english.

I hear this all the time. Someone besmirches the name of Ramakhrishna, and a rain of fish falls from a clear blue sky. Say that Allah doesn't exist, and nearly get run over by a car. Kneel in a shrine and pray to Genesha, and suddenly a child emerges from the hospital "miraculously healed".

These sorts of tales are abundant, and have been for most of recorded history. Every time that someone wishes to proclaim the legitimacy of their belief system, they find ways of promoting it via examples of seemingly supernatural interventions.

Reality break.

Men typically analyse circumstances with their minds. Every event has to go through several thousand neural connections where they are situated into something that are minds can comprehend. You know, the same minds that hold our thoughts and beliefs. So, when our minds look at an event, they associate the seperate bits of that event with past experiences and the vault of knowledge that is already there.

To someone that holds to a clinging belief in or desire to believe in the supernatural or mystical, a falling leaf might be "floating". Or a medicine cabinet that gets knocked off the wall might go "flying across the room".

Perhaps you should research into the scientific feasibility of these claims. It is not impossible for something to move against gravity, but it takes a lot of energy. Thus, it is unlikely that such an event would occur without a device designed for it.

There is, in fact, any number of potential explanations for everything. Think about that.

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:20 am

baddogma , =D> =D> =D>

Grand Poster Joined: Jan 28, 2006 Posts: 2274

baddogma wrote:

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Why don't you just laught about the whole thing and leave it be. There's no reason to get mad if somebody's superstitious. Just live your lifes and forget that no-one ever even said that there might be a God.

Religion is not a laughing matter. Have you ever watched the news? I can laugh it off when they stop pushing their belief on others.

Yes, 9/11 was hilarious, and no ones concern.
along with the train bombing in spain, and the bombings in london.

Funny, very funny.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:22 pm

Yes baddogma, =D> =D> =D>


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