I believe that Ala made this universe with a bang.
Scientists have now confirmed this in the 20th century.
But most of them say they dont know who, or, what caused the explosion.
They are still working on it.
They need more time.
Most scientists have come to the conclusion that they will never be able to know.
Other scientists say that explosion just happened; which,
if you think about it, is pretty stupid thing for a scientist to say.
What does it mean "JUST HAPPENED".
Thats absurd !
Science always looks for the cause behind everything that takes place.
Things dont "JUST" happen by themselves. To say things like that is totally unscientific.
A few of the top scientists, therefore, have come to believe that some sort of powerful and intelligent Supreme Being must have caused this massive bang which occured some 12 billion years ago.
These scientists say that this mysterious Force must have been
the cause that was responsible for origins of our Universe.
That is what God's own book, the Koran, also teaches.
I agree with world's top scientists.
You cant dispute facts.
Of course, ordinary people are free to reject recent scientistfic findings.
People may also interpret scientific evidence in an irrational ways to suit their own closed minds.
But facts are facts.
pr126 Philosophical Prodigy
Joined: Jan 04, 2005
Posts: 4975
Location: UK
Posted:
Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:10 pm
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MockingGods Master of Logic
Joined: Nov 14, 2002
Posts: 5693
Location: Planet Earth
Posted:
Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:56 pm
rayback wrote:
I believe that Ala made this universe with a bang.
Scientists have now confirmed this in the 20th century.
But most of them say they dont know who, or, what caused the explosion.
You do understand of course, that there was no sound, no "bang", no "explosion" when this universe began to expand. The term "Big Bang" was coined as a pejorative to mock the idea of an expanding universe.
Quote:
A few of the top scientists, therefore, have come to believe that some sort of powerful and intelligent Supreme Being must have caused this massive bang which occured some 12 billion years ago.
There was no "massive bang" and could you please give the names of these "top scientists" that have come to believe in a supreme being as a cause, and the tests and data they've used to come to this conclusion.
Quote:
But facts are facts.
Nice rhetoric, unfortunately you're not very good with the facts.
Eon The Learned
Joined: May 03, 2008
Posts: 182
Location: Nottingham, England
Posted:
Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:38 pm
pr126 wrote:
Dude, that's awesome.
As for rayback, whoop-de-frickin'-doo! More obnoxious bold-text rhetoric, without any attempt to back it up with anything remotely resembling evidence.
Do you really still not understand why no one is hearkening to your message, rayback? I actually feel sorry for the Islamic faith that they have to put up with you as one of their number.
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PTP The Learned
Joined: Dec 04, 2008
Posts: 163
Location: Aussie
Posted:
Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:45 am
Yes, alla and the 72 babes got off with a bang... hehehe (is this the kind of childishness you are looking for???)
We all see your game, create an 'out' group, label them, isolate and taunt them and get them to make silly responses or to get angry and then confirm your own biases and prejudices.
So, we have those sub-human 'atheists' right?
No, the reality is that whatever physics drives your neurones to believe in whatever you believe drives others to believe in Buddha or quantum particles.
rayback The Learned
Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 187
Posted:
Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:23 pm
I think intelligent readers can judge for themselves the replies given
by Atheists when confronted by Science and Logic.
As for Richard Dawkins, he has been called "stupid and arrogant" by some
top thinkers in the world.
Go read up.
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pr126 Philosophical Prodigy
Joined: Jan 04, 2005
Posts: 4975
Location: UK
Posted:
Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:52 pm
rayback claims:
Quote:
As for Richard Dawkins, he has been called "stupid and arrogant" by some top thinkers in the world.
Names and links to those "top thinkers" please.
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slavaBogu Confident Learner
Joined: Feb 17, 2006
Posts: 60
Posted:
Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:58 am
rayback wrote:
These scientists say that this
mysterious Force
must have been
the cause that was responsible for origins of our Universe.
Really? Scientists say that? Do you care to cite any scientific research that actually says that? If you understood what science is, you would see what a ridiculous statement that is.
Do you think modern science would've gotten this far, if scientist attributed unexplained phenomenons to "mysterious Force(s)"? It might work in a holly book, but it wont fly in science.
Hank Graduate Thinker
Joined: May 04, 2003
Posts: 546
Location: Toronto
Posted:
Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:33 pm
Why is this post in the physics section
It should be in the religion/Islam section! Physics does not define Allah anywhere in any books let alone as the cause of the universe. Well except the Quran, but it is certainly not a physics book.
DigitalAtheist Graduate Thinker
Joined: Apr 13, 2009
Posts: 661
Location: Canada
Posted:
Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:34 pm
Hank wrote:
Well except the Quran, but it is certainly not a physics book.
…continuing that thought, the Qu'ran does indeed have mass, volume,
and
if a bag of dog poop and the qu'ran are dropped from an equal height and let to fall to the ground, they will fall at the exact same rate.
Physics. So blasphemous.
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BornAgainAthiest Graduate Thinker
Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Posts: 669
Location: Here.
Posted:
Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:14 pm
rayback wrote:
I believe that Ala made this universe with a bang.
Scientists have now confirmed this in the 20th century.
But most of them say they dont know who, or, what caused the explosion.
They are still working on it.
They need more time.
Most scientists have come to the conclusion that they will never be able to know.
Other scientists say that explosion just happened; which,
if you think about it, is pretty stupid thing for a scientist to say.
What does it mean "JUST HAPPENED".
Thats absurd !
Science always looks for the cause behind everything that takes place.
Things dont "JUST" happen by themselves. To say things like that is totally unscientific.
A few of the top scientists, therefore, have come to believe that some sort of powerful and intelligent Supreme Being must have caused this massive bang which occured some 12 billion years ago.
These scientists say that this mysterious Force must have been
the cause that was responsible for origins of our Universe.
That is what God's own book, the Koran, also teaches.
I agree with world's top scientists.
You cant dispute facts.
Of course, ordinary people are free to reject recent scientistfic findings.
People may also interpret scientific evidence in an irrational ways to suit their own closed minds.
But facts are facts.
Hey folks, do you want to see a perfect example of Rayback's razor-sharp "intelligence" and the quality of his "research"?
Then go to the last page of the thread, "Why do atheists and agnostics reject science?" in the General Discussion area of the Science sub-forum.
I'll reproduce it here, but you can check it out for yourself there if you like.
On July 1st I wrote...
"Hey Ray!
If you're up for a challenge and want a tougher nut to crack than us braindead Atheists, why not go here?
Watch out though! The guy who runs it has got all the right answers. He's never wrong and he doesn't give an inch on anything.
Good hunting!
BornAgainAthiest."
Rayback replied on July 3rd.
"Thanks.
I will visit it sometimes.
However. I don't expect an Atheists, no matter how educated, to tolerate severe criticism of his beloved and cozy fake world of evolution."
Can you see what happened here, folks?
Yep. Ray didn't even bother to click on the link. Because he just knows he's always right about everything he didn't even feel the need to move his hand and click the mouse over the link. If he had he'd have seen a number of ever-so-subtle clues that Biblocality.com wasn't an Atheist website. Nope. Ray's too arrogant and too lazy and too full of his own crap to do any kind of decent research into anything.
Biblocality.com is the site's name. You'd think from that title, Ray'd pick up the fact that it just might be connected to the Bible, huh? Nope. He's either too stupid or he's got his head too far up his own bunghole to make that connection. Failed again, Ray!
Had Ray taken the time and effort to do
any
research he'd have found words like, "
Christian Forums
" and "
Bible Study
" and "
Christian Living
" on the opening page of Biblocality.com. But, of course Ray doesn't need to check out anything. He knows it all. That's why he joined this forum - not to preach to us but to inform us of the facts.
After all, facts are facts. Aren't they, Ray?
Yep. Like the "fact" that Physics confirms God. Failed again, Ray!
And it gets better...
The thread, "Why do atheists and agnostics reject science?" was started off on November 12th last year by a now-banned member called Foreversaved. Yes, folks this is the sock-puppet manifestation of Troy Brooks, the site manager of...
Blinded by his arrogance and too lazy to be bothered to do any checking, Rayback spotted this thread and decided to latch onto it like a single-celled parasite for his own stupid, bigoted ends. He didn't notice that Troy "Foreversaved" Brooks is a Fundamentalist
Christian
, not a Muslim. Simply by clicking on the name, "Foreversaved", Ray would have seen Troy's Profile and the link to Biblocality.com. He's not an atheist or a Muslim - he's a Christian.
He's an infidel, Ray!
He rejects the words of the Koran, the authority of Allah and doesn't recognize Mohammed as God's holy Prophet. He thinks that ALL Muslims deserve eternal hellfire for rejecting Jesus.
But, once again, you didn't bother to do an ounce of research or checking.
Failed again, Ray!
Now I didn't put that link there to trick or trap you. Nope. I offered you the genuine possibility of going head-to-head with another bigoted, religious zealot because you think that all us braindead atheists just can't cut it. And what did you do? Because I'm an atheist you automatically assumed that I was directing you to an Atheist website run by a fellow atheist. Nope! You failed again Ray!
So who's braindead, Ray? Us atheists or you? Work it out for yourself.
You can't criticize his cozy and fake world of evolution because Troy Brooks doesn't believe in evolution any more than you do. He's a Creationist who believes that God made Adam and Eve,
exactly
as it's written down in the Book of Genesis. If you'd get your head out of your arse for a minute and listen to what others think, you wouldn't make so many lazy, stupid and arrogant mistakes.
And more of the usual...
Whazzamatter, Ray?
Can't type a paragraph properly? Can't punctuate what you type?
Failed again and again!
Now let's see what Ray's next move will be.
If he really has got the big balls he claims he has then he'll do the right and honest and smart thing and respond to this message with an admission that he's screwed up.
Can you do it? C'mon Ray! Prove us all wrong.
No
shouting
, no insults, no changing the subject or any crap like that. How about it?
BornAgainAthiest.
p.s.
There is another option open to you, Ray.
You could always follow up on WrathJW's suggestion.
No. I won't tell you what that is. Do some work for a change and find out for yourself!
DigitalAtheist Graduate Thinker
Joined: Apr 13, 2009
Posts: 661
Location: Canada
Posted:
Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:30 pm
BornAgainAthiest wrote:
Now let's see what Ray's next move will be.
If he really has got the big balls he claims he has then he'll do the right and honest and smart thing and respond to this message with an admission that he's screwed up.
Can you do it? C'mon Ray! Prove us all wrong.
No
shouting
, no insults, no changing the subject or any crap like that. How about it?
…
Do some work for a change and find out for yourself!
I doubt that Raybot can do it, BAA.
His god and model teaches him to be a
complete coward
– spiritually, intellectually, ethically, and otherwise. He can not be a challenger, because his god has taken his balls from him.
Some readers of these forums will remember that I presented an open challenge to "Ala" in the "Why I Love God" thread. I called him out to a fistfight, man against god – and the weasel did not show up. "Ala" didn't even respond to me, the wimp!
(Keep in mind that I'm only 160lbs., kind-of-out-of-shape, and not-too-imposing looking. Also, "Ala," is apparently a "god.")
So, come on Raybot. Can you stand up on your own in this forum? Apparently your god isn't around to help you; so be a man! Use your brain! Don't be a coward, like your god.
As a postscript, I do have to say, that Raybot has more guts than his god. At least he
showed up
to the fight.
_________________ Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. - Cardinal Wolsey
rayback The Learned
Joined: Jun 10, 2009
Posts: 187
Posted:
Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:47 pm
I think any reader can see from the replies, that the Atheists are on the run.
My post about mordern Physics research seems to have rattled their cozy cage.
Atheists tend to flee when confronted by science or reason.
Just look at the behaviour of these monkeys.
BornAgainAthiest Graduate Thinker
Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Posts: 669
Location: Here.
Posted:
Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:29 pm
BornAgainAthiest wrote:
Now let's see what Ray's next move will be.
If he really has got the big balls he claims he has then he'll do the right and honest and smart thing and respond to this message with an admission that he's screwed up.
Can you do it? C'mon Ray! Prove us all wrong.
No
shouting
, no insults, no changing the subject or any crap like that. How about it?
BornAgainAthiest.
Failed again, Ray!
You tripped and fell at the "Insults" hurdle.
Failed again, Ray!
You tripped and fell at the "Changed the subject" hurdle.
Failed again, Ray!
You tripped and fell at the "
Shouting
" hurdle.
Are you going for a mega-fail here? Four fails in one message. That's a record even by your stupid, lazy and arrogant standards!
"Mordern physics?" Would this be some new branch of science or did you just fail to type the word, "modern" out properly?
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