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Who had held the highest moral ground than anyone who ever lived? Jesus Christ, obviously, since He is God. |
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baddogma
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No you said who ever
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That's correct, whoever lived. Scholars believe Jesus lived. |
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Cygnus
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Whereas others don't believe he lived. |
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But almost all skeptical scholars say he lived because this is where the strongest evidence is. |
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Gerard
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What scholars are those?
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From about the past half century who are skeptics collected by Gary R. Habermas who are accredited and published in peer reviews. |
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If you could get that list to us, then it would be appreciated. |
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baddogma
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| That's correct, whoever lived. Scholars believe Jesus lived. |
There is no contemporary evidence Jesus ever existed. Until you produce some he is simply your imaginary friend. |
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People who didn't give any thought to Jesus during his lifetime were not interested in Him; He was only a concern for those who walked with Him. However we have 45 ancient sources, 17 of which are non-Christian. 12 of those 17 speak of His death, 7 of His resurrection and 7 of His deity. |
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baddogma
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| People who didn't give any thought to Jesus during his lifetime were not interested in Him; He was only a concern for those who walked with Him. However we have 45 ancient sources, 17 of which are non-Christian. 12 of those 17 speak of His death, 7 of His resurrection and 7 of His deity. |
Prove it without using that book of fiction you call the bible.
Oh yeah, YOU CAN'T! |
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Skeptical scholars say the the Apostles really believed they saw Jesus resurrected and that Jesus really walked the earth. The existence of the Bible is the proof, because the only real substantial proof is the eyewitness accounts and prophecies fulfilled from centuries before which are impossible unless Jesus is God. |
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baddogma
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| Skeptical scholars say the the Apostles really believed they saw Jesus resurrected and that Jesus really walked the earth. The existence of the Bible is the proof, because the only real substantial proof is the eyewitness accounts and prophecies fulfilled from centuries before which are impossible unless Jesus is God. |
Yeah, they also believe in a firmament the sun standing still in the sky, unicorns, a woman turning to a pillar of salt, a flat Earth, a man in a fish, a global flood and a cute little ark with two of every animal, dragons...blah blah. eye witness accounts my ass. NAME THEM. PROVE they existed. They are invented just like your imaginary friend. Using the bible is begging the question. You have ZERO evidence. Thanks for playing, you can go now. |
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Why do you say there is no evidence for things that have a cause? How do you type your keystrokes if there is no cause? |
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