I watched it without audio. If the Audio is important let me know why cuz I may not be able to listen in soon if at all.
It is worth noting if it is put in proper percpective.
This appears to be carefully staged. It would be important to know how much prep work was done and what technology was used. It doesn't seem to be limited to ancient technology. There is concrete involved which most of the ancients didn't have except for the romans and those that followed in there area. It still doesn't deal with the heaviest blocks. The concrete blocks he moves don't appear to be much more than 10 tons.
A closer look at the work behind to sort out which technology the ancients might have had and which they didn't have is in order.
I'll note it on my site thanks.
It would also be inappropiate to ignore the limited efforts by others that couldn't acomplish nearly as much while in the actual field like Heyerdahl, Bernstein, Balzoni, Layard, Botta etc. If you want to acknowledge only the facts that back up your belief that is your perogerative.
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Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:37 am
AliTheBandit wrote:
Oh, and lastly - we do have historical texts from those periods - interesting that visitors from heaven are never mentioned .
After thinking about this for a bit I realized that "visitors from heaven" are routinely mentioned modern historians just dismiss them as myths. Not that I object to that when you consider the way they are mentioned. Singing or talking statues, walking statues, oracles many of witch are considered intocicated. In Dier el Medina they had a tradition where they carried a statue around during a trial and the statue would "nod" at the guilty party. levitating "saints" and much more interesting stuff.
I'm not saying this proves there is a God it doesn't but you can't interpret it one way when it serves your purpose and another when it doesn't unless of course you feel like it.
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:15 pm
The following sites have been pointed out to me recently:
If these are accurate then clearly the largest stones can be moved with modern technology. My opening post said that in some cases these sites can't be built with modern technology. This may still be true but the evidence wouldn't be the ability to move colossal stones alone it would be the ability to do the precision carving involved in many of these sites and install them in large volume and short time period.
However my main point still stands since this was primarily about building these structures without modern technology. the colossi of Memnon was alledgedly moved 400 miles without modern technology. No one that is well informed is claiming they know how or that they can even come close to figuring it out. However many people that are less informed are making this claim.
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:39 pm
Mental levitation was used to build Stonehenge, Zacharia Sitchin says.
I believe enough mental power around an object can move it a bit.
I’ve tried several times; but nothing happened…
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:46 pm
Julio wrote:
Mental levitation was used to build Stonehenge, Zacharia Sitchin says.
I believe enough mental power around an object can move it a bit.
I’ve tried several times; but nothing happened…
Zacharia Sitchin also says a planet is coming back from the outer solar system with our creators or something like that. No explanation as to how they survived for thousands of years well beyond the habitable zone.
Not the top of my reading list or on it at all
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:11 pm
zacherystaylor wrote:
Julio wrote:
Mental levitation was used to build Stonehenge, Zacharia Sitchin says.
I believe enough mental power around an object can move it a bit.
I’ve tried several times; but nothing happened…
Zacharia Sitchin also says a planet is coming back from the outer solar system with our creators or something like that. No explanation as to how they survived for thousands of years well beyond the habitable zone.
Not the top of my reading list or on it at all
I read five or six of his books;
basically the same idea round & round, but he made a fortune with his idea.
All subjective stuff, but part of it makes good sense.
He is not stupid at all.
The Annunaki survive because they live underground, and obviously, have millions of years of experience [make it thousands, of 3600 of our years = 1 of theirs.]
They are indeed our creators, I believe... well, should I believe it?
If not those creators, who else?!…
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:22 pm
"If there really is an Advanced Intelligence Called God what is he really like?"
Great web site you have there,
zacherystaylor
. Just checked a bit of it. I'll read more later.
OK, that sentence up there is not objective for the "he" you included.
The AI would be "IT".
God is defined in a Gnostic context "Light Energy", IMPERSONAL.
Not a "he".
Just for fun.
Have a nice day and keep it up. Julio. Johannesburg.
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:10 am
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There is concrete involved which most of the ancients didn't have except for the romans and those that followed in there area.
He probably only used concrete because it is more practical than buying a huge chunk of metamorphic rock from a quarry and transporting it a long distance to his house. The ancients that built Stonehenge were more dedicated, and with a thousand people, they could have done it.
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:48 am
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There is concrete involved which most of the ancients didn't have except for the romans and those that followed in there area.
He probably only used concrete because it is more practical than buying a huge chunk of metamorphic rock from a quarry and transporting it a long distance to his house. The ancients that built Stonehenge were more dedicated, and with a thousand people, they could have done it.
Well, somebody did build the circle.
It used some form of force;
human or divine;
more human than divine.
If divine, we would have many more monuments similar to that one,
which would have been in fashion those days.
Conclusion, no divine force involved:
only human!
Simple, is it not?
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:03 pm
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There is concrete involved which most of the ancients didn't have except for the romans and those that followed in there area.
He probably only used concrete because it is more practical than buying a huge chunk of metamorphic rock from a quarry and transporting it a long distance to his house. The ancients that built Stonehenge were more dedicated, and with a thousand people, they could have done it.
As I said on another post Stonehenge isn't even in the top 50 most difficult ancient wonders.
The Largest stones moved a much loger distance were the colossi of Memnon 700 tons each moved 400 miles over land.
A guy with modern technology moved 10 tons therefore how the ancients moved over a hundred 100+ ton stones some over 700 tons has been explained HHHMMMmm
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:09 pm
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Cygnus wrote:
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There is concrete involved which most of the ancients didn't have except for the romans and those that followed in there area.
He probably only used concrete because it is more practical than buying a huge chunk of metamorphic rock from a quarry and transporting it a long distance to his house. The ancients that built Stonehenge were more dedicated, and with a thousand people, they could have done it.
As I said on another post Stonehenge isn't even in the top 50 most difficult ancient wonders.
The Largest stones moved a much loger distance were the colossi of Memnon 700 tons each moved 400 miles over land.
A guy with modern technology moved 10 tons therefore how the ancients moved over a hundred 100+ ton stones some over 700 tons has been explained HHHMMMmm
The Colossi of Memnon were built, again according to Sitchin, by the Annunaki, who were demigods from other civilizations, who inhabited or occupied our planet for a while. Is it difficult to accept this proposition? No. Not difficult at all, and quite plausible, since the pharaohs themselves could be genetic descendants of those demigods.
The scene on top of Mount Sinai, where Moses saw Jehovah, is mythology based on some stories about those Annunaki. The two statues are at the entrance of a massive temple, which could receive small spaceships. Well, if there is no real explanation for such massive stones, any speculative theory is valid.
Scientifically, it is not possible to prove any of those theories; therefore, believe away whatever…
By the way, the story of Marduk is notably related with those Annunaki, and it is also mentioned in the OT. He lived some two thousand years… so speculates Sitchin in his latest book “Countdown to Armageddon”.
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Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:09 am
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As I said on another post Stonehenge isn't even in the top 50 most difficult ancient wonders.
What does this have to do with anything?
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The Largest stones moved a much loger distance were the colossi of Memnon 700 tons each moved 400 miles over land.
I thought we were debating stonehenge.
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A guy with modern technology moved 10 tons therefore how the ancients moved over a hundred 100+ ton stones some over 700 tons has been explained HHHMMMmm
Where in his project he used modern technology besides in the concrete and in the construction of certain things that could have been built without modern technology but were done so to save time and because the proving of such things are completely beside the point, I don't see. The whole point of the video was to demonstrate simple mechanics of physics that can move very heavy objects. All you have to do is imagine those things on a much larger scale, which isn't impossible to do, and you've got Stonehenge or the Colossi of Memnon or whatever.
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:05 pm
Julio wrote:
The Colossi of Memnon were built, again according to Sitchin, by the Annunaki, who were demigods from other civilizations, who inhabited or occupied our planet for a while. Is it difficult to accept this proposition? No. Not difficult at all, and quite plausible, since the pharaohs themselves could be genetic descendants of those demigods.
The scene on top of Mount Sinai, where Moses saw Jehovah, is mythology based on some stories about those Annunaki. The two statues are at the entrance of a massive temple, which could receive small spaceships. Well, if there is no real explanation for such massive stones, any speculative theory is valid.
Scientifically, it is not possible to prove any of those theories; therefore, believe away whatever…
By the way, the story of Marduk is notably related with those Annunaki, and it is also mentioned in the OT. He lived some two thousand years… so speculates Sitchin in his latest book “Countdown to Armageddon”.
I sugest you read Carl Sagan including "Cosmos". He is mostly very good and cites his sources very well.
Keplers law of planetary motion and the habitable zone where there is a consistant envirnment are sufficient to rule out Sitchen's 12th planet theory.
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:11 pm
Cygnus wrote:
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As I said on another post Stonehenge isn't even in the top 50 most difficult ancient wonders.
What does this have to do with anything?
Quote:
The Largest stones moved a much loger distance were the colossi of Memnon 700 tons each moved 400 miles over land.
I thought we were debating stonehenge.
Quote:
A guy with modern technology moved 10 tons therefore how the ancients moved over a hundred 100+ ton stones some over 700 tons has been explained HHHMMMmm
Where in his project he used modern technology besides in the concrete and in the construction of certain things that could have been built without modern technology but were done so to save time and because the proving of such things are completely beside the point, I don't see. The whole point of the video was to demonstrate simple mechanics of physics that can move very heavy objects. All you have to do is imagine those things on a much larger scale, which isn't impossible to do, and you've got Stonehenge or the Colossi of Memnon or whatever.
The subject was actualy about dozens fo sites that moved colossal stones including many well over 100 tons.
His project clearly involved an enormous amount of prep work to move a much smaller number of stones and lower weight than the ancients.
If you take a closer look at the mystery it is clear that it doesn't come close to explaining it.
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