Allah, looking from outside

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Republished my book “Islam From Outside” after some editing.
Also got other five, two in Portuguese.
See them at www.lulu.com.
http://www.lulu.com/content/4217900
In the preview I refer you to the last pages of my book where I have a fictional dialogue with Allah. Very weird, I warn… Wink

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You look at Islam from the outside : what do you see?
The first impression is one of FANATICISM; the mental propensity to defend a religion at all costs, to be applauded by its god, prophets and servants. No matter the cost in lives and/or matter.
What do I see in a religion like Islam?
I see RELIGIOUS VICTIMS ; plenty!
I see a cryptonymous god made of man’s complex of fear.
That is the god that never resolved the original problem when it was small.
What problem?
The little "thing" that shook the system sometime in the beginning, who knows now!...
We have, therefore, enough argument, reason, power and conviction to ATTACK that incompetent god and challenge it [IT] to a honest confrontation of thoughts and words.
No swords, please!
Allah is “Nothing”; is “Mental Void”.
Allah is not my god .
For that, I fear IT not; because if I feared a “Nothing” I would be something, wouldn’t I?!…

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My dialogue with Allah:
J. Dear Allah: do you really know me?
A. Julio, I don’t know anything, nobody. I don’t exist. But you have a bright brain, and I encourage you to use it to REASON faith. A man is first run by instinct, then reason and next faith, the least important. When you reason that if God exists IT has to be Impersonal, you are distancing yourself from the dishonest activity of religions that survive on a network of fear of inexistent gods. If I had the flimsiest of feelings, I would be intensely offended by the concept that I am responsible for the criminality Islam is producing in the world.
J. Criminality, you say?
A. Islam is on a par with other religions in the world, you understand. That is, as soon as they succeed to gather a group of conscripts, they constrict them to believe the need for a social structure. As soon as that social level is attained, the numbers of adherents increase to the next political stage. After achieving political power, they, those religions, acquire official status, from which the evangelization process is implemented and forced with lethal weapons. If their gods do not succeed with fear tactics to force the masses to religious submission, the next step is WAR against one’s conscience and freedom.
J. But why don’t the gods resolve the human problems with peaceful methods?
A. Oh, my friend, that is simple to answer. The gods like WAR and brutality, because they themselves fight with each other! Gods never lived in peace in heaven, where war was invented. They hate and detest one another, and can destroy universes for minor aggravations, the beasts!
J. But is there anything we humans can do to help?
A. To help gods?!… For goodness sake! They will never leave you alone, believe me! They hate the human race!!
J. So, you are one of them?…
A. I am god “Void” ; nothing else. Forgive me...

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Continuing my dialogue with Allah:
J. Sure, I forgive you… huh… Void … Sorry, I’m embarrassed to talk to god Void, you see.
A. You can call me anything, really. But avoid insults to Void, because Muslims are very sensitive and temperamental. For nothing, or rather for “Void”, they can go berserk. They are, like all, victims of religious indoctrination from childhood.
J. I had a friend that believed Allah is very merciful, and was all the time trying to convert me to Islam. But I didn’t fall for his method to evangelize me using fear tactics of Jahannam, hell, punishment and Allah’s violent wrath.
A. I’m not violent, Julio. I am not going to punish anybody in any hell, whatsoever. I have no power to move my little finger; could I hurt anybody?… No, for goodness sake, no! Allah has no issue with anybody on earth. Leave me alone in my “Voidness” and I will be silently happy forevermore.
J. Evermore?!… But you have been in that condition for evermore, haven’t you?…
A. I don’t know. I know nothing because of my “Voidful” conditions… sorry.
J. OK. Look, Allah: forgive me for saying so, but you are crazy… aren’t you?
A. No, I’m not crazy. I just live only for myself, in my “Voidlessness”… if you understand.
J. But Muslims would not want a god like that.
A. Yeah, they want a personal god with much wrath, anger and indisposition, to punish kafirs, fakirs, infidels and westerners with nuclear bombs! But I’m out of it! Please, I have nothing to do with gods’ religious antagonism, or the world’s destruction with nuclear power!…
J. I’m glad to know that! I hope Muslims will soon discover that Allah is quietly retired in ITS little black hole near the outskirts of the Big Bang.
A. Well said, Julio; well said. I also hope so too.

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J. You hope so, but the truth is that nobody does anything in the world to prevent a worldwide catastrophe with atomic bombs. Would you do something, if you could?
A. Sure, I would. But unfortunately, being a being that I am not, in my nothingness of voided matter I am entirely impotent to prevent the Final Incineration of humankind.
J. You scare the hell out of me with that language. Final Incineration?!…
A. Unless religion is decommissioned, you see, from its nastiness and hatred of a different opinion. I’m not the only deity competing for adulation and eulogizing. There are other “Voids” in the circuit trying to make a kill, if you excuse the expression.
J. Decommissioned, you say? How can we get rid of gods without attacking each other and hurting our innocence?
A. Oh, you will not be able to remove gods from your planet so soon, sad to say. When a religion gets the Official Status in a country, sooner or later its leaders will IMPOSE it on the masses via the firepower of lethal weapons! Did I say this before? Sorry for repeating, but it is so traumatic that even a senseless god like me gets nervous and agitated.
J. Understandable, really. But do you think the world will one day go up in flames?
A. I’m sure, no doubt. There are currently, several thousand nuclear bombs around the world, and half of them hidden somewhere in the Middle East. What do you think for?!…
J. What can Allah do about that?
A. Nothing. Never did a thing in MILLIONS of years. Not a bloody thing, the useless Eternal One! Utterly ineffective and worthless. And, come to think, Allah could have done the honourable thing many millions of years ago, when there was no people in your planet: just blow up the place for good, and goodbye nuclear bombs!
J. But if Allah did that, who would be left to praise all his benevolence, mercy and charity for preventing all the misery that would happen here afterwards?
A. Julio, please, don’t you understand? What is the use or purpose for the human race in that little planet? All you care to do is to fight each other and struggle for a lifetime! What decent god would create such a setup, for goodness sake?!…
J. But didn’t we evolve from some energy thing, not created by a god?
A. Who cares whether you evolved or not! Look at the mess you have made of your world! Would a god like Allah love that horror?!…
J. You mean, if you were a real god you would attack and destroy us in some Armageddon?
A. Look! That is a rhetorical question, you see. If I were real, I would have had time to think a BETTER plan from the beginning before pushing the Start Button. A better plan, understand? And I would have time to fix up the very first slight deviation in the original plan, whatever. See if you follow.
J. Allah, you seem so human with such reasoning. Loveable, if we could hold you; a true god, in my mind. You would not fail had you been real.
A. Thanks for the complement, but I told you already I’m nothing. I like it so…

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J. Let us imagine, god Allah, that you were really, really personal and divine. Can we?
A. It’s not easy for me, being what I am, Impassionate Void, or something even lesser visible…
J. OK, but just for the sake of checking your ability to wonder off an imaginary target…
A. I don’t have an imagination per se, much less a target of sorts; I have nothing but a routine reflex under a cause and effect of cosmic vibration… do you understand?
J. No, but don’t worry.
A. Fine.
J. Well, then. If you were real, Allah, would you commit crime to uphold your holy qualities or attributes?
A. Huh!?…
J. Would you organize a violent campaign to evangelize the world for your side?
A. No, never.
J. Are you sure?
A. Sure I’m sure!
J. How are we then going to convince the Muslims that Allah is not on their side?
A. The Allah they worship is a War God, like his cousin Jehovah, from the same family route. Both have pledged to deliver them the “Promised Land” but none ever fulfilled it. There is no real Allah or real Jehovah. And yet, they hate each other so much that they are ready to crack the world in half to satiate their instincts of holiness, the beasts! I hate them!!
J. You see, how quickly I led you to an emotional outburst? That’s what an impersonal god can become if he doesn’t check carefully ITS emotions!
A. Sorry, really sorry. I lost it for a moment. I’m sorry.
J. OK, but now you know why we humans love to worship gods with a hint of violence. Got it?
A. Mm…

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J.And what then about the Prophet Mohammed?
A. As an inexistent deity, I couldn’t care less for him. But going by what fanatics believe about the guy, he certainly represents a serious problem in the world, doesn't he?
J. How come? Wouldn’t you call up a particularly devout human being to reveal to him your plans for the future?
A. WHAT PLANS?!! WHAT ----- PLANS?!!! No, never! Sorry for the aggravation, I didn’t mean it. Sorry. I mean, if I had something so important or so special to dispatch to the human race, I would do it in person, wouldn’t I? Surely I wouldn’t use an illiterate of the Dark Ages to do the important job in modern days! Besides, being an almighty god I would have sorted out my plans alone, by myself, in time and quietly, without the need for any special messenger, what the hell!…
J. OK, sorry for asking.
A. I don’t believe in prophets, you see! Much less using them to send a message to the world. WHAT MESSAGE, in the name of Michael!!… If Allah would be such an omnipotent god, he could do it himself with no pain. I mean, according to the legend, he went looking amongst millions of Arabs, for a specially devout individual to call him to be his messenger. Ridiculous! Preposterous! It would take the same effort of that all-powerful god to tell the story LIVE individually to each one of you, wouldn’t it? Why would Allah need to send messages if he were all-powerful to sort out the problem before it would grow to monstrous sizes?!!…
J. Yeah… crude, isn’t it? For me, I also do not trust one bit any prophet coming down here in your or Piet’s name, telling me to follow your crude and coarse dictums otherwise you would punish me severely in Jahannam.
A. Punish you in Jahannam?! If I were a real Allah I would rather punish myself in Jahannam for not being intelligent enough to sort out the problem when the problem appeared for the first time on my radar! Come on!! Where did the prophet suck that thing from?!… Punish you for not reading the Koran or fasting Ramadan?! Please, for goodness sake!! I never touched the little toe of any human being, never mind hurting you for discarding superstition!…
J. Well, thanks; it’s comforting to know you are on my side.
A. Besides, a prophet that lived fifteen hundred years back in the past has no right whatsoever to make demands on any human being living now! You run your life under the justice system of your conscience and/or the system of your democratic country, never by the delusions and psychotic troubles of an illiterate visionary of yesteryear, for heaven’s sake! Did you get it?
J. Yep.

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J. Dear Allah, I want to ask you this question: why did the prophet use the sword to evangelize the world?
A. At the time he didn’t know about dynamite… But as soon as the famous powder was discovered by the INFIDELS, you see, sure he took advantage of it. Clever chap, I tell you.
J. That is, as from that time, the Islamic evangelization was accelerated with the use of TNT explosions, you mean?
A. Yeah. Millions of INNOCENT PEOPLE were blasted to smithereens to uphold Allah’s holy dignity and mercifulness.
J. Isn’t that a wonderful way to elevated Allah’s most merciful attributes in matters of faithfulness and dedication?
A. All gods use explosions and detonations to bring in their particular kingdoms of heaven; Allah is not the exception.
J. Aren’t you ashamed of so much brutality to achieve the moralistic plateau?
A. Julio, I told you before: there is no Allah anywhere. Only religious violence to get to heaven! You take care of yourself, and avoid religion like the plague.
J. That doesn’t seem to work, you know. Religion is always infesting our life one way or another. There seems not to be a solution for the eradication of religion peacefully from the world.
A. Well, if all humans were atheists maybe religion would not survive.
J. Atheists are less violent than Muslims, that’s for sure. But are you supporting atheism, Allah?
A. If I lived, that is, if I were real, a true god in the universe, I would ban religion and required all to learn a quiet life.
J. Oh, oh! How would you do that?!… Don’t you see that we are aggressive and malformed of character, predisposed to hurt each other?
A. I would have the solution, for sure.
J. Hard to believe, believe me…
A. Well, a real Allah would have made a BIGGER planet, with less hardship for the human species. Space aplenty for all to enjoy life, my dear. And death would be a peaceful and quiet moment. Nice, don’t you think?
J. You're a nice god, Allah; thanks.

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J. Dear Allah, let me ask you another sensitive question, if I may.
A. Fire off, I can answer anything because I don’t have any pending issue with anybody; I live for goddess Emptiness, excuse the rhyme…
J. Israel?
A. Oh, oh! Please, isn’t that too sensitive for Muslims?…
J. If you were a real Almighty, what would you do to sort out the problem?
A. Frankly, the problem is Jehovah’s one, not Allah’s! It was Jehovah who pushed the Abrahamic crowd into that small place. I have wondered many a time why on earth did that other Almighty confine his beloved nation into the smallest possible enclave of the Middle East?!
J. Incompetence, I would imagine…
A. Almighty incompetence, I would say!… What the hell was Jehovah thinking when he allocated that smallest piece to his special people of the Promised Land?!…
J. Perhaps sleeping the afternoon off, or taking some drug for a headache…
A. No, almighties don’t take drugs, what you’re talking about?!…
J. Sorry. But what would you do to sort out the entanglement now?
A. Now is too late to resolve the crisis without major intervention.
J. Such as what?
A. To me, had I been the number one Almighty in the area, there would be only one plausible solution: To drop the Mediterranean Sea five hundred meters lower, so that Israel would gain a few more kilometers of ground!…
J. You’re not serious! You would join Africa to Europe through Spain!!… Migration from Africa would become a tsunami in no time and war would ensue to stop it!
A. … Huh… huh… so… maybe in the end Armageddon is a better option…
J. in the end, you say … one way or another…

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J. Dropping the Mediterranean Sea is not a viable solution.
A. There is then no peaceful solution for peace in the Middle East, is that what you mean?
J.I don’t know! I’m not the Most Merciful Allah, am I?! If Allah could have not envisaged a decent plan to accommodate the children of Abraham in the vast area, what other almighty would?
A. That is to say that Allah is not all-powerful, isn’t it?
J. Of course! There are TWO almighties in the area and the problem is still running after FORTY CENTURIES of struggles!
A. I know, Julio. It is incompetence and mediocrity on the part of Allah and Jehovah.
J. Yes, it is! Two almighty gods to resolve one small conflict starting sometime in the past, for goodness sake! That’s why the liberal thinkers and all sorts of agnostics and atheists keep mocking Allah, Jehovah, Christ, Abraham, Moses, David, Salomon, and the band of prophets that came in that area with all sorts of solutions without ever resolving the tragedy!
A. Don’t blame me, Julio; I’m no almighty Allah, nothing like that.
J. You’re not Allah, but the Arabs want you to be! They want you to destroy Israel and give the troubled piece of land to the Palestinians! Why don’t you help, anyway?!…
A. Hey, if I could move a finger I would try!
J. Try do what?!…
A. I want Israel to stop killing people to uphold Jehovah’s holy nature, and Arabs to stop killing to highlight Allah’s mercifulness! I want those two peoples to live in peace.
J. Without war?…
A. Yes, without war. The Palestinians deserve to have land for their own people. Israel was a slave people before, oppressed by Pharaoh, according to the tale, but now they oppress and enslave others in the same area!
J. It is insanity. All because of you and your colleague Jehovah, dear Allah!
A. Yes. I’m terribly ashamed of all the mess both of us caused in that Promised Land…
J. Yeah. Jehovah told Moses to remove his sandals because the land was holy, but it turned out to be the most violent in the world!
A. Oh, Julio, Moses was the biggest liar that ever appeared in the Promised Land!…

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J. You’d better avoid calling Moses names, for the orthodox Jews love the patriarch, you know.
A. Yeah, but don’t they know that Moses was a murderer from his younger life, when he killed a policeman and ran away for forty years, with the conspiracy of Jehovah?
J. Well, when a religion exalts and elevates a criminal to sainthood, no patriarchal crime is big enough to excuse the saint from the altar, is it?
A. True. Moses was the first to read the Ten Commandments written, he said without witnesses, by the finger of Jehovah, where it was clearly stated in capital letters “THOU SHALT NOT KILL”, but as soon as he arrived back in the camp he ordered the killing of three thousand of his friends, those who believed he had been with God in person!
J. He had been next to Jehovah, who wasn’t clever enough to send him down the camp two or three days earlier to avoid the orgy with the stolen wine and the golden calf, made of stolen gold from the same bosses in Egypt. Thou shalt not steall, too!
A. Yeah, the entire enterprise was made up of thieves and drunkards, one would say, ready to kill each other for minor issues…
J. But, Allah, what also about when Moses ordered the killing of the entire tribe of the Midianites, then killing thousands of pregnant women and their sons, next delivering the young virgins to the soldiers?
A. That was the first holocaust by Israel against innocent people, but thirty-five centuries later, Moses reincarnated in Hitler for the next. You don’t start a Promised Land with holocausts, do you?
J. No! But what do you think, Allah, about the future of Israel?
A. Statistically, Israel is in bad shape. The odds are against that little nation. Millions and millions of Arabs surrounding it, what do you imagine could happened one day?
J. Armageddon?!
A. Sure. The Palestinians want and have the right to their independent nation, but the space is very limited. Israel is enslaving them, while the Arabs look on! Sure, the future is not better for Israel than it was for the Midianites!…
J. I see the coming horror… once again Allah against Jehovah…

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J. Dear Allah, do you think that there will ever be peace between you and Jehovah?
A. No. Because there will never be peace and harmony between the Jewish Bible and the Muslim Quran.
J. You mean it’s impossible to make one sacred book from the two and bring peace to the Middle East?
A. Never! The Jewish Bible advertises a ferocious demiurge, always angry, with an incurable psychosis. The Quran, for its part, advertises a most merciful Allah with a random enraged indisposition whenever some infidel wants to inspect his CV.
J. No luck, then, with any one of the two?
A. There is a remote possibility to bring peace in that tormented area of the planet, if those two gods could be demoted and dispatched to some far out galaxy, by the outskirts of the Big Bang or beyond.
J. Would you, as the Arab god, accept that condemnation?
A. As I told you already, I am as real as Jehovah. That is, we are but two character-malformed idols, fear-imagined by some patriarch millennia back in that region. We do not exist anywhere in the cosmos, but when you are superstitious like Donald Duck you dedicate your whole life to this sort of vacuous imaginations.
J. I mean, with enough goodwill, some compromising could be achieved…
A. Goodwill?!… Those religions in the Middle East have always been ruled by badwill, if I can put it like that! Don’t you remember the angels singing “Peace on earth and goodwill among men” when Jesus was born?
J. No, I don’t remember; I wasn’t in the choir…
A. Yes. Soon Jesus was saying I came not to bring peace but a sword! Today, he would say I come to bring a machine gun and a defensive grenade!
J. That makes Jesus a very violent Christ!
A. All christs are violent; like all prophets, too.
J. Mohammed was another christ…
A. With a difference: no angels sang anything at his birth…

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I’m rather disappointed that I didn’t receive one reply to these postings. Did everybody agree with it, I wonder? Look at the amount of visitors!
Not even from the moderator-in-chief!
I promise I will never again post anything on this subject.

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cool stuff

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:23 am

Julio wrote:

I’m rather disappointed that I didn’t receive one reply to these postings. Did everybody agree with it, I wonder? Look at the amount of visitors!
Not even from the moderator-in-chief!
I promise I will never again post anything on this subject.

Sorry Julio, I haven't had a chance to read through all this. Don't feel disappointed however, site activity is a bit down of late and not getting the exposure it normally does. I'm sure what you've written and posted is worthy of everyone's appraisal. Keep up the good work.


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