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How Are Atheists Moral Without Absolute Morality?
Posted on Wednesday, January 10 @ 23:20:04 PST by infidelguy

Blog If there are absolute morals and they are the morals of the bible (god's word) then they should always apply to every situation. Is it always wrong to lie? According to the bible it is. ** Ex.20:16, Lev.19:11, Dt.5:20, Pr.12:22 and Eph.4:25. Rev.21:8 states, "All liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Suppose a woman in blood-drenched clothing comes to your front door, in tears, begging you to let her in because her husband is beating her. You let her in and give her water and console her and, all of the sudden, there is a knock at your door. It's the woman's husband and he wants to know if you've seen her.

Do you lie and break "god's absolute morals?" If you are a truly moral person.......YOU BETTER LIE TO HIS FACE!!! My point is that morals are not concrete or law... they are relative to the situation. Your idea of good and my idea of good can be very much different. "Good" and "bad" are very subjective words. Morals developed out of want to avoid unnecessary harm. There is no concrete, absolute list of rules to follow. It's just common courtesy and common sense most of the time. It doesn't need to be explained to a person. Do you really think the bible is what keeps everyone from wandering about killing people and stealing? Of course not. It simply makes sense to try to be "moral", most people are. As is the case in many instances, if one does horrible things to people, that person will eventually have horrible things happen to him. Not to mention it is very difficult to function in a society where the majority of people don't agree with your view of morality, especially if it causes unnecessary harm. A good example that the Bible or God isn't needed to uphold a standard of morality, is the fact that China is a very atheistic country... definitely more-so than the US... very few Christians there compared to the U.S. Now, let's look at the senseless murder rates for China and then the U.S. The US is much worse in not only murder, but also theft, fraud, assault, rapes, and many others. China has less policepersons, a bigger population, yet less crime. Japan is also largely unchristian, yet, crime in Japan falls far below that of the US. More info can be found HERE. Now... how could an atheistic country be more moral than an alledged "Christian Nation"? If Christianity is the model for absolute moral standards, non-christian areas should be over-run with extremely high crime rates, genocide, theft, murder etc... but this is not what we see. Morals and goodness are a part of human nature. Understanding them begins with trying to understand humanity. This article provided by Matthew Davis * With a paraphrase of Dan Barker's story about the "blood-drenched" woman and contributions by The Infidel Guy. -------------------------------------------------------------------- ~ Related Logical Argument ~ ARGUMENT FROM MORAL PARITY
1.) If God exists, rational theists are probably noticeably morally superior to rational atheists, on average.
2.) Rational theists are not noticeably morally superior to rational atheists, on average.
3.) Probably, God does not exist. - Paul Draper

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